^ Because that doesn't already sound like complete bull.

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Come on you guys it's "a modest proposal"

You were trying to make a point, but I lost it somewhere in poor sentence structure.

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In the digital online distribution system. Which would probably mean only licensed manga...which is reasonable.

What do you think are the original goal of scanslations? It's not just to give us free manga, but to also get the attention of publishers to license it. So it's only natural that they would delete scanslations that have been licensed. The same way scanslators drop a project once it's been licensed or online viewing sites delete them. Once a manga has been licensed it's no longer in that gray area.

I don't see why we're still throwing around hate posts. The main issue was that they were going to sell scans, which they've stated they're NOT going to do, and while we only have their word for it...there was also no evidence that they were going to sell scans in the first place.

Now the issue with it being a soft copy. As I said, they are merely addressing what makes scanslations so popular.

-People complain that officially published manga takes too long, well now they have it online since they don't have to print and send it, it's available anywhere and they don't run out of stock.

-People complain about it being expensive, it being online they now don't have to waste resources on printing so it's cheaper. Their rough draft stating only $2.5 for 10 volumes, now that is cheap.

-Pay-per-view. We could have misinterpreted it and it really does mean pay-per-download. And being a rough draft, it can easily be changed.

-Middleman for scanslators and publishers. I have no idea on this one though my interpretation as previously stated, would probably work out like MH being something of an employment agency commissioning scanslators on a per chapter basis for viz's licensed stuff for Viz to sell through MH.

The only mistake they've done (so far at least) was keeping the community in the dark. And the only question I have is whether unlicensed scanslated manga will still be kept in their database for free online viewing and download...until it's licensed anyway.



Maybe all the negative posts made want to counter and balance the issue.

Last edited by blakraven66 at 11:03 pm, Sep 24 2009

do you honestly think viz will allow them to host unlicensed stuff too? unlicensed stuff is still breaching japan copyrights. and while that might mean scanlators can't be as directly penalized as breaching american copyright, viz has to negotiate with these japanese manga companies. so how would it look if a business that is part owned by viz is hosting illegal (based on japanese law) copies of manga? there's no way for viz to negotiate with japanese manga companies with a place like MH hosting unlicensed scans. just like with crunchyroll, MH will have to purge everything except the stuff they've been paid to have on their site by the clients. viz won't tolerate anything less, and neither will the japanese manga companies that viz negotiates with for licenses.

That is why it is a question...but you make a good point.

Some people are overreacting way to much... why go as far as faking emails... the wonderfulness of drama, they make juicy stories to write about.

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It's fun causing mass hysteria?

It's fun to cause mass hysteria and panic... there is no question about it.

Well, this can be a good thing, but MH will have to go legit and "break" all ties with scanlation groups that do unlicensed manga, and I mean publicly break contacts with them and denuncing their actions...

But this can work as part of a larger system!!!

Scanlators do mangas in the gray area, and attract the attention of Viz
Viz licences them, and said scanlators are contracted to work with mangahelpers (for a price).
Mangahelpers delivers the same manga, in a speedy way (with a charge $$$)

Sounds simple, but is actually much more complex... magazines like Shonen jump, won't like this, so they won't allow it.

So Viz will have to directly contract mangakas and publish their work online (Only way it could work well)

In the end this system would spread manga to more places of the world, but would probably be the end of Magazine manga... bah too much thinking...

I don't like to privatize that, with is originally free... so whatever

is too early in the morning and I have a hangover...

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What I find disappointing is that mangahelpers prohibits the scanlators to add profit related download links, I think.

I'm not sure about this, I'm not responsible for the mangahelpers account of our group.
But there definitely were some issues regarding megaupload links with out group on mangahelpers.

Plenty of scanlators have their own homepages, which, even though it's very little, require some money to run.
And I definitely prefer getting the little money I need from megaupload than out of the pocket of the fans.
(I prefer if they use that money they would donate to buy some mangas and support their local manga industry instead)


Anyways, while we had an issue with mangahelpers because we would've gotten 0.1 cents per download, they start doing some grand business plan with viz behind everyone's back.
Ah wait, it's not even 0.1 cents per download, because not every download is counted "valid"...
Whatever, I don't really have a clue how megaupload works, to be honest.

Last edited by JustPassingBy at 2:47 pm, Sep 25 2009

To get a part of this "half" back...

Final conclusion:
http://static.businessinsider.com/~~/f?id=4abd03753492b51861c40 769

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That 5% who voted to pay to continue reading must be working for that news site.

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Last edited by krytorii at 1:40 pm, Jan 24 2021

Is this really happening? Will mangaupdates.com be the premise on where VIZ gets their lawsuits in bargain?