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Post #318337 - Reply to (#276704) by shaggievara
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When they say "But I'm a man."

No duh. Every one of them that says that should get smacked upside the head. Twice.


Lol that too, oh and base_coat, i do think takaba is kinda of smexy, well in a childish kind of way..does that make sense?XD

A cliche would be also when you know who's gonna end up with, i mean, both characters that fall in love, are always opposite in personality/ect..
have you noticed that?


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Lol that too, oh and base_coat, i do think takaba is kinda of smexy, well in a childish kind of way..does that make sense?XD


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I get tired of how everyone is openly gay: obviously, no one ever has problems dealing with their sexuality! And if he doesn't realize it yet, he will be the moment his uke/seme starts giving off man-attracting pheromones dead

But the one I really can't stand is deep, profound discussions right in the middle of sex scenes.




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Worst cliche would have to be the fact that most ukes are girls. With, you know, dicks. Ever read Minami Haruka? Oh yeah.
Other things I find annoying are:
(Gay)Best Friend.
Do you have a childhood friend that you've grown up with? Has he been acting strangely lately? Well, chances are, he's gay! And in love with you! And angsting about it! Oh, and watch out, because he'll probably try to rape you. But that's okay, because Rape is Love!
(Gay)Transfer Student.
The transfer student will be hot, of course. And he will either be one of the many love interests or a love competitor.
Possessive Seme.
Have you ever read a manga where the seme wasn't uber-possessive and jealous? Now, this can be interesting sometimes when it's done right. However, try Totally Captivated. Mmhm, I would run away too, Ewon.
Uke's Resistance to Sex.
The uke will almost always protest. "No, stop it!" "It feels weird!" "I don't want this!" The seme, of course, takes it in a "I'm saying no, but really, I mean yes" way. And there will be sex. Homosexual sex that looks suspiciously like heterosexual sex. Mangakas, if I wanted to read something like that, I would pick up a HENTAI.

Whew. That took a while. Sorry for ranting. dead

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1) Rape = Love
Because, you know, if you're shy about confessing to a guy you love, raping him is a right way to go.
There is a 100% posibility of stockholom syndrome and he'll pity you and love you forever.
It's always seme that rapes the uke
comon, so you're too shy to tell him you love him, but not afread to RAPE?

2) "You're wet"
OMG i didn'y know that the man's ass lubericate themselves when they're sexually aroused.
Which biology class did you take? or are all ukes hermaphrodite?
At first i thought they were using semen to lubericate or something
(either that or the uke is cheating)

but frankly, I like yaoi cliche. they exist for a reason, and that reason is that it makes yaoi fangirls happy. It's much more fun to read about kidnapper-lover sinero than to read about raped-angest sad story. and frankly, it makes the story HOT.


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Hahahah this is so funny..
What about I'll teach/ask your body.
A picture is worth thousand words.

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Hahahah this is so funny..
What about I'll teach/ask your body.
A picture is worth thousand words.


laugh Hilarious! What manga is that from? Would love to read it!

On-topic: Every yaoi I have read so far has the uke go *twitch*, *shiver*, while making this face: (>///////<) when the seme touches the uke's dick with his fingertips.

Also how the seme is able to have a perfectly calm conversation (which consists of dirty talk) during sex whilst the uke can't even form complete proper sentences in the midst of his throes of passion. The degree of speech control can be gouged by the shape of speech bubbles for both the uke and seme.

And 98% of yaoi characters have vague, glowy outline of a dick.

One more: The width of an uke's shoulders is one-third to that of a seme. roll eyes

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Super small ukes and huge broad shouldered semes. nuff said. roll eyes

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-Seme is all was a seme and uke is all was a uke.
-Girly uke and man;y seme
-Adult x Teenage and Adult x shota/kid. sorry I don't like pedophile at all. But there time when I like early 20s adult x teenage.
-Adult x Adult not fan of that but do read college one and the only adult bl i have read is Hachiue no Juunin. I most just stick with young/youth BL.
-Bara/muscle men or whatever its called I don't know how fans are in to that its just odd stuff.
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Homosexual sex that looks suspiciously like heterosexual sex. Mangakas, if I wanted to read something like that, I would pick up a HENTAI.
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not only in mangaka but also in fans. They are all was want the uke guy to dress up as girl. I really don't know what going though their mind. I start to think they really don't what BL/Shounen ai/Yaoi mean at all.
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Super small ukes and huge broad shouldered semes. nuff said. roll eyes

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Hahahah this is so funny..
What about I'll teach/ask your body.
A picture is worth thousand words.


laugh Hilarious! What manga is that from? Would love to read it!

On-topic: Every yaoi I have read so far has the uke go *twitch*, *shiver*, while making this face: (>///////<) when the seme touches the uke's dick with his fingertips.

Also how the seme is able to have a perfectly calm conversation (which consists of dirty talk) during sex whilst the uke can't even form complete proper sentences in the midst of his throes of passion. The degree of speech control can be gouged by the shape of speech bubbles for both the uke and seme.

And 98% of yaoi characters have vague, glowy outline of a dick.

One more: The width of an uke's shoulders is one-third to that of a seme. roll eyes


That's from Flower of Life

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2) "You're wet"
OMG i didn'y know that the man's ass lubericate themselves when they're sexually aroused.
Which biology class did you take? or are all ukes hermaphrodite?

actually => "As the rectal mucous membrane provides little natural lubrication, a lubricant is generally used when penetrating the anus." citation from wikipedia ^__^; But sometimes i'm really fascinated why is uke more wet than any woman. roll eyes

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(either that or the uke is cheating)

lmao From now on when i see uke gettin wet, i'll remember it and laugh.


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but frankly, I like yaoi cliche. they exist for a reason, and that reason is that it makes yaoi fangirls happy.
I love yaoi cliches and it makes me reaaaaally happy biggrin


"Worst yaoi cliche" => Uke and seme rolles. Don't take it wrong, i like these rolles, but it's so rare to find versatile(switching). e.g.=> Pleasure Fortune or Haru wo Daite Ita



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I hate everything about cliche yaoi. Everything. I can't even think of something I hate the most, they're all so headache-inducing.
But at the moment the one that is bugging me the most is the whole uke thing. They're all pretty much flat-chested futanari, especially the "shota" characters. I read yaoi because I don't like seeing women get molested, not because I want it!

I always assumed the "you're all wet" thing referred to precum, but yeah... I always have to facepalm when the uke appears to have an overactive vagina for a butthole. I'm going to assume all mangaka who use that scenario have never come into contact with a male human being.

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The uke's dick will NEVER be bigger than the seme's. Because that would just be crazy and biologically impossible roll eyes

When I see "natural" anal lubrication I just have to stop and wonder wtf these writers were doing during biology. Seriously. I really wish they just never ever did this.

'Rape breeds love'. No it doesn't. End of story.

I'm not asking for big, burly, muscular men, but I am asking for an uke who does not look like he's a prepubescent 10 year old girl with over-active tear ducts.

There are so many more too. I'm so numb to all these cliches now lol.

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Is the pheromone effect already mentioned?? Yes, that one that seems to get intense after the uke has sex..Seems to me that ukes are a magnet to molesters.

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Hmmm... I don't mind cliches actually, as long as they can be carried out well.

And many, it's insignificant to the point that they no longer bother me like "girly ukes" and so on.

*slight rambling*
Also, I have met gay men who were totally like "girly ukes"... it's almost like meeting Ayase from Okane Ga Nai. bigrazz Yes, I'm also talking about the "crying part", the clingy part and that "doe eyed"(puppy eyes) look they give you. And also, the voice... soo high-pitched and I can't believe it's some 20++ yr old guy. And even worse, I could just imagine roses blooming in the background like in some shoujo manga. O-o;; And soo... emotionally sensitive too... it's like they could burst into tears any minute... talking to them is like treading on some landmine, especially if the lover looks like he's going to crush you out of jealousy and for making him cry.

I've also met the kinda long-haired guy who keeps giggling non-stop in some high-pitched tone and who can be kinda girly. bigrazz It's not just the thought, gestures or body language but it's like their items are like "pink", bright and flashy... embarrassed

(So that's just 1 "stereotype" that's smashed to bits... that all gay men are like from new york new york or Nemureru Mori no Binan ^^;; .)

*end slight rambling*

But what does annoy me are.. well, not sure if it counts as a cliche or not but, insufficient development into the character or plot and where... well, everything is too simplistic with no justification for it, or with nothing redeeming.

I remember reading Kanashii Kotoba and getting persistently annoyed with how everything was around the level of plot I used to read in kindergarten. .__.

I also dislike it when the plot focuses too much on characters being "kawaii" and stuff like that.

I also dislike too much experimentation or authors who try to write convoluted plots when it's obvious they'd fare better with simpler plotlines. Tengoku e Ikebaii comes to mind. Or Nightmare Fortress - Majin no Jousai Or Mask, Corsair and so on.

I also dislike stories with little to no closure because unless it's very very thought-provoking or is meant as some sort of parody, critique, commentary and so on..., the writing usually leaves me in sheer frustration.

Or wayyy too much melodrama... I know many don't mind it but an overdose of it makes me want to die.

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