personally the ending didn't really bother me. For the first few days after reading it, it was weird but I just accepted it. Theirs now incest and still stays true to Daikichi personality where Rins happiness comes before everything else. this is certainly not the weirdest ending I've ever seen either and no this does give people the green light go and adopt some kid raise them and then marry them people who think like that are people who think video games and violent movies teach kids to be violent. the ending was rushed but not horrible, rushed and weird definitely but not horrible..

First and foremost, I don't think the ending was bad, but I could definitely do without the thing about Rin wanting to have Dai's child. I understand Rin wanting to be with Dai forever, and understand how that goal could lead to marriage, but the baby thing is too much. Damned creepy how Daikichi just seems to accept it, he seemed to really think of himself as a dad towards the end. But as long as its legal and not blood incest, I find myself tolerant of that behavior and probably wouldn't give more than a bewildered "BWEH?!" if I found out this happened in real life. Like polygamy, gay marraige and republicans, if its legal and not detrimental to human evolution I could live with it.

I think the Anime's end, while short and kinda rushed, was a lot better than the manga's. Reminded me of Yotsuba minus the craziness. And Rin was really cute without her buckteeth.

TROLOLOL. So many people commented for one side, so I guess I will also comment.

First of all, I have read several manga involving sibling incest before.

Let me stress. Manga. Fiction. I have two imouto in real life.

The people who are shocked and raging probably haven't. That's all. If it's the first time you see incest, of course it's disturbing. I know this isn't the place, but if you read things other than your innocent shoujo manga (which you probably do) you will find that there are a lot of disturbing and twisted and taboo things portrayed almost shamelessly in manga. That's just how it is. This says nothing of the people of Japan, but rather, a cultural difference of what is tolerated as the author's freedom of expression. No idea if that was put into the right words, but I'm sure you notice a difference.

That said, the ending was... bad. And here I thought I had found a manga that was pure. Disappoint. Apparently I must have been in such disbelief that I failed to notice that Rin and Daikichi were't related. Lol, fail.

Curiosity doesn't kill the cat. It kills your innocence.

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I didn't like the ending at all and didn't see "it" coming...But I liked the first part where Rin was young and the beginning of the second one. The sudden change of heart of Rin was definitely weird and I hoped until the end that she just confused romantical with fatherly love because she was afraid of not to being with him forever....I was really shocked when the manga turned out this way and that ruined the whole manga for me. I also believe that the mangaka didn't plan to write about incest in the beginning because in the middle of the second part there was just a weird cut and everything began going downhill...Let's take Daikichi and the woman whom he loved for example. The author suddenly used weird excuses so that they won't end up together...I couldn't rant enough about the horrible direction this manga took

You know...before I picked up this series, I actually called the ending - as a wishful thought.
I didn't really expect it to happen.

I was really rooting for Daikichi x Yukari, and I'd be lying if I said that there were no waterworks going on when they "broke" it off and her engagement was announced.
Nevertheless, I was right. It ended the way it did and it took me a while to accept it.
The ending, albeit sorta rushed, is actually kind of sweet if you think about it.

There's nothing immoral or "creepy" about it. It's not like things went all according to some sick plan. Daikichi wasn't exactly enthusiastic about the whole relationship taking the turn that it did either. He took some time to contemplate on it and figured that it would be best for the both of them. Nothing would have hurt him more than to see Rin shatter from rejection. He knew, for the most part of the time that he took after Rin, that she was not his blood relative. The idea of them being a couple couldn't have not cross his mind - even subconsciously. The possibility was always there, but as a "father" he deemed it very improbable. So the decision wasn't really made in a "short" amount of time.

There are just some readers who are incapable of taking in "new" information as part of a whole story, rather than taking it in as part of the last few pages of a story and thus, claim it as a bullshit twist.

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I nearly cried near the end of the manga. I wish the author had not made the u-turn in the story. I used to like the first 6 volumes too, but after the ending, i just felt bitter disappointment. Yes, I know its legally and medically okay for Rin and Daikichi to marry, but he raised her up for pete's sake. It technically like marrying your adoptive parents...... I wish i hadn't read the grown up part of the story. I really do......

For all those contending that this is NOT weird or creepy or that it was a "logical direction" I'm just going to make a blanket assumption that you do not have children and leave it at that. I'm also going to point out that the genre of father-daughter incest is RAMPANT in manga, there's plenty of it out there so if that's your niche or kink by all means ... I'm not judging anyone for their tastes, this is after all FICTION. The issue here was less one of morality, and way more one of HORRIBLE storytelling. This wasn't a loli-con fantasy manga, this was a story that worked BECAUSE it was a realistic, wonderfully honest portrayal of both the beauty and harsh realities of parenting, family, childhood, adolescence, marriage, adoption ... LIFE. Rin - beautiful a child as she was, wasn't crafted as some Lolita seductress. She was a normal, down to earth kid with a good head on her shoulders, who'd been through some really tough stuff. Daikichi wasn't painted as some horny, lecherous dude. He was a hardworking, slightly awkward but well intentioned guy. One who was responsible enough to be able to call out his own family for so cruelly ostracizing a small child then take her in himself. I'm not asking that this story be "pure", there's a lot of ugly shit in the world, incest included. All I asked of Usagi Drop is that it made SENSE. And I'm sorry to ruin the fantasy guys, but parents who raise their kids in the way that Daikichi so conscientiously raised Rin, don't F'N marry and procreate with them. And for those who'll come back with: wah wah but they aren't related! Blood has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that Daikichi raised that little girl and more than earned the title of "parent". Just like so many adoptive parents have. No matter how you slice it, it doesn't add up.

And no the ending doesn't magically make sense because "there was no one else for Rin to fall in love with, so of course it would be Daikichi!" ... Why was there no one else? Are Kouki and Daikichi the only two males in the city? Was it ever explained why Rin's options were suddenly oh so limited? She's not a spinster people, she's a gorgeous 16 yr old girl with her entire LIFE ahead of her to find herself and fall in love. As for Daikichi's options, he had Nitani. Who was then randomly married off to someone else, for no reason yet again. Back to Rin who admitted in the manga that she loved Kouki IN A ROMANTIC SENSE since primary school, but then within a few chapters suddenly viewed him as nothing more than a brother ... and in that same span of time viewed her father as a love interest. Why? Did something happen? Where was the catalyst for these changes? Not explained, aside from Kouki having an EX girlfriend ... which of course is SO abnormal for a 16 yr old to posses, and also usually a solid reason to fall out of love with the guy who wants nothing more than to be with you, and who you've loved for your entire life ... right? Are we seeing the pattern here? Arbitrary. The entire second half of this manga completely contradicted just about every established fact that the first half set forth, without a logical explanation given for any of it.

I think the people like myself who are so disappointed. Read this manga and thought "ah something well crafted, and MEANINGFUL, finally!" only to find that all the meaning was squandered by a rushed, horribly cheap cliche and utterly out of place ending. The pacing for the second half was not only terrible, the plot was filled with holes. So for everyone whose ONLY return argument is: THIS ISN'T INCEST or STOP JUDGING ME WITH YOUR CRAZY MORALS YO ... Take out the question of morality and guess what ... you still have an EPIC FAIL.

Unless of course you read this manga hoping to find some juicy father-daughter taboo without any of that bothersome "storytelling" business getting in your way. If so congrats ... you are in the right place.

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The problem with the ending to me wasn't what had happened but the weird direction the story went. Went from a story about fatherhood to where the supposed daughter loves the father figure. Would be fine if it was two different manga with different characters, but the misdirection of the plot just made it weird. To sum it up, I expected the manga to end differently because of what I've seen in the first half.

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You're right, but you can definitely shorten your post.

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Personally, I so did not see that ending coming. It was the farthest thing from my mind when I started reading the series and I was totally hoping for the Daikichi x Yukari. The ending felt like something reasonable even though the outside world would deem that kind of relationship unreasonable. The really weird thing though, is that I was COMPLETELY blown away and caught off guard with the ending, but I didn't feel mad about it. I sort of looked at it again and saw that the situation between Daikichi and Rin didn't really change other than that Rin's feelings were out in the open. If you took the text out of the ending (like the last few pages), they seem like the same as they have been since she was little. But of course, there are those who are going to flame me for saying this, so I will just say this first: HERP DERP DERP HERPITY DERP. ┐('～`；)┌



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"Deal with it" That's your argument? Umm ... *looks around* I'm pretty sure this is a thread for ending DISCUSSION right? Lmao why are you here?

Thanks ... I guess. Sorry I exceeded the "secret maximum wordcount rule", I was under the impression that people possessed the freedom to simply not read a post if they felt it was too long. My bad.

TROLLOLOLOLOL

Who said anything about me trying to elongate this "discussion"?
More like a whinefest than a discussion, IMO.

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incest always happened since the begining of times, just beccause we dont see it anymore cuz its taboo doesnt mean it doesnt exist, i think rin's feelings are extremely pure, they dont have any pervesion in this manga, and bout daisuke, he just want to adpt with rin just like he always did, Rin is the only thing he is concerned about since the beginning of the series, fiction or not, just accept, its their world and not at all impossible to happen!