Which "truth" are you talking about? You are in the other extreme of "preachers" as you call them, and yet you want to say you are better, doesn't that prove you are just the same?

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Exactly why I originally said "to each their own."

And about your post against Raeryn. I agree with her, religion can be good. Not everything though, but you don't need to follow that part. Even my church wholeheartedly accepts LGBT despite "what the bible says"(or so what those anti-gays think).

Religion can save people, why say that it's so bad if it can make people happier and keep kids from committing crimes?

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I don't believe teaching children religion is child abuse. Yes, extremes of anything COULD be considered abuse, but most normal people avoid extremes. It's quite wrong to throw a blanket over an entire issue by using the worst case scenario.

Other than extremists, religion is really a good thing. It instills moral values on the populous that work very well to make society a better place than it would be without. Respect for fellow man, humanity, compassion ect are all things that can be grown out of religion (yes there is much more, but I don't want this to be too long).

I was raised catholic from birth. I did gain my morality out of being brought up through the faith, and because of it, I do strive to treat my fellow human beings as well as I wish for them to treat me. I have been for many years (and will be for the rest of my life) Atheist. One thing as humans that is needed is to see all of an issue (both sides), and to understand that only a small percentage of people end up at the extremes.

Saying that all people who teach kids religion = child abuse is also an extreme.

And one of my favorite quotes seems fitting here:

If God did not exist, one would have to invent him. I want my attorney, my tailor, my servants, even my wife to believe in God, and I think that I shall then be robbed and cuckholded less often - Voltaire

The truth that a man was not formed from sand in the image of the god himself. How's about that for starters ?



Let's take christianity as an example here.
Here are a few quotes from the bible:

"if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women.." - encouraging rape, and murder.

"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her" - rape + marry? Where's the logic in that?

..you Christians should read the bible once in a while.

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First, I'm sure it was not sand. And second, you are prejudiced about religion, and you think you hold the "truth". So that is just as ridiculous as those religious fanatics, that was my point.

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Hmmmm, Most of what i said was rhetorical. You need religion to be seen as something bad in the first place before you can make a statement like yours....

There are four kinds of people in this world.
Christian extremists
Casual Christians
Casual Athiests
Extremists athiests:


The extremists are two in the same people just on different sides of the coin. You are an extremists =]
Banning religion is extreme

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Edit, Note i say: It needs to be SEEN as something bad.
You need to take steps when you suggest things.

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I believe in letting people do as they wish, as do I myself. Sometimes, of course, what I wish to do is kill them and they do not wish to die. This gives life interest.

You were sure it was not sand? please read the bible. And no i am not an Atheist fanatic, in fact I believe that there is a greater force than ourselves out there, however I don't believe the fairytale that was told about the "god" etc. Please consider also that Christianity as a religion is sexist, murderous, cultist and most of the preachers are known to be pedophiles. You must be living in some fairytale land or not watch the news, or read the bible at all...



LOL what planet are you from!?
1. Bible is sexist, murderous and misleading.
2. Christianity has killed millions of people in the past in eastern europe due to people refusing it.
3. Christianity was forced to people in southern Africa, and gradually spread upwards, people were made to believe that God is the only one that can help them, because they thought white men are powerful only because of their god, and gradually, it evolved into a common belief over years. (history lesson).
4. Christianiry has destroyed all eastern european culture which was based on beliefs in nature and it's gifts in the past.

is that not enough?

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I thought you wanted to know what we thought. But you seem to be arguing what we think and sticking your opinion in our faces, trying to make it seem like we're wrong.

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gimme the book, verse and chapter numbers then to prove your sources for once in you holier than thou mu career.

see what i did thar?

no. You're not wrong. Maybe it is because it's quite late and I am laying out my speech a bit short-cut and straight to the point. But thank you for your thoughts and participation in my thread. I appreciate it.



Deuteronomy 20:10-14 - first one
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT - second one

also you might wanna check these out:

Numbers 31:7-18 NLT
Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB


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First, english is not my firs language, second, I checked using google, and it doesn't say they were created from sand, if the bible you read says that, then I'm sorry but it doesn't match the one I checked.

Second, I have read the bible, more than once, and if you think its doctrine is contained in every book, then I think you should read it again and think a little again.

Third, if you still think you are not an atheist fanatic, then I think you should read your posts again and then check the thread's title. And then read fr33nob's post, because even if I'm sorry he didn't return your love, he still made sense there.

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Enough to see that you love trolling.

1. I'm surprised you have them, i applaud you.
2. Thats a book in the jewish torah, not the christian bible. Even though they are based off of one another very few christians i know pay much attention to the old testament. In fact none of them.
noob

Then that basically proves my point. Thank you.
Christians believe what each of them want to believe, that means you are no longer a Christian if you do not stick to your roots of the religion. That means you are inventing something of your own.
NOOB.

Anyway i'm off. Have a nice day everyone.

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Positive lessons from religion:
Exodus 20:12-17
Matthew 7:12

which are also found similarly in other religions