I'm not here to argue but... what the hell are you talking about?

Ancient humans kidnapped wolf pups to train, raise. and breed for use as partners in work, hunting, etc. Eventually, after a few thousand years of breeding different wolves, they had become dogs and all the breeds the term includes.

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You make it sound as though dogs are unable to survive by themselves. So, how are wolves still around and for that matter stray dogs?

Have your bias for cats, but try not to disregard dogs history and intended existence as partners of humans.

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First of all, Where != were

Secondly, you missed my point. I wasn't talking about domestication (or lack thereof), I was talking about how they act in order to survive the world of Man.

Dogs kiss ass (literally and figuratively).
Cats don't.



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Dogs are surely capable of surviving by themselves in this day and age. Their ancestors, however, were not. Not when Man was young during a period of kill or be killed. To ensure their survival, they adapted and evolved to be domesticated. Obviously not all of them did so, which is why we still have wolves.

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That is so incredibly inaccurate, on sooooo many levels

Where do you get this info from, I'm not even...gonna...

Thank you for the correction.
I'm not great at spelling. I'll admit it.

Survive the world of man. Sound pretty smart to me.
My point was, cats don't behave that way by choice. Kiss ass sounds unforgiving, they definatly are more loyal to the people that raised them, don't mistake that for blind loyalty towards "people".
Dogs can chomp on people especially ones they don't know. I admit overly domesticated dogs can wag their tail at anyone but don't mistake that for dogs in general.

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Well if you're such an expert, why don't you try to enlighten us with your self-proclaimed scholar-level knowledge on the canines and it's history in evolution...oh wait.

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Oh, since i don't know a lot about breeds, means i don't know much about their history...else if I know about the history i should become an Expert.

yes, I'm a real butt hurt guy that roams the forum.

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For crying out loud, just read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_dog
I'd say that this was what he was referring to when he said 'K-9', why make so much of an issue out of this...
I don't know what the 'Other breed' tho.. Maybe a Poodle? Lol

This is also what I meant when I said K9, German Shepherds are good police dogs imo... (when trained)

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Both are cute, but cats are the most cute, I think.

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What do you mean every? And what's with the laugh. If you're going to quote me then do it properly. There was nothing funny in that, I only said I meant you. Your story was slightly comical, whether intended or not. The reference is fairly well known so I assumed you'd also recognise it. My bad.

Your facts were wrong. That's why I had to ask follow-up questions to specify what the facts were or if you really didn't know. K9 obviously doesn't sound like a breed, so I thought perhaps you thought it to be a short for a breed and I asked to if you know the actual name for that breed. That's because you seemed like you knew the other breed but not the other. Deducing can be done from the material available, not beyond that. And some of that material being simply wrong only confuses the situation. That's why I asked you to specify. I understood that it's a cross-breed from the start and never asked if it was.

Another thing. Even if one doesn't know shit about breeds, knowing the name of the breed of their own dog is pretty much given. The problem isn't that you don't know much about breeds but that you don't know the breed of your own dog. Does it matter? I guess not.


It's "lone wolf", not lone "wolf". The term "lone wolf" separates the specific wolf from regular wolves with the fact that it, against the norm, isn't part of a pack. Normally wolves always travel in a pack which emphasises the fact that it's alone. In other words, it's an exception.

Several species of animals are very smart even though they are undomesticatable. On the other hand many domesticated animals are pretty dumb. Your boat doesn't float.


Where exactly do you get the information as to how they came into contact with the animals? Why does it need to be forceful abduction? Also, animals, by definition, cannot be kidnapped.


So he was referring to police dog. His dog is half police dog (breed undetermined) and half something else. That makes sense... Not. But thanks for trying.

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And still...nothing to put on the table except for a weak comeback?
What facts can you bring up to counter my statements?

...or was it just easier to laugh at me for knowing something you don't?

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No getting emotional over the internet.

Cats and dogs attract people for different reasons. I've always loved both. There are great dogs and great cats and shitty ones of each. I aspire to have both and will eventually develop allergies to both.

I was exaggerating, I didn't need to accurately depict what you wrote but i did sum it up. You find that quote funny (run forrest, run), i did not...I found what i wrote to you funny. Instead it was a bit of a "dick" move according to you.
I guess we have different humor, eih?
To answer your last question. No, it doesn't matter.
K-9 is abbreviation commonly used for German Sheppard. Again don't know much about the breed but you don't need to know your dogs breed to own it. Its stupid to think you can boast being a better owner just because you know the breed.
Its a given you say? tell me when you take mixed breed pup in from the street because it was abounded if you know the breed just from looking. Self riotous punk. Yeah, you don't know what the fuck your talking about.


Well, what was the point in pointing that to me? I said they travel in packs to show they do have a semblance of social structure, not because there are no exceptions "lone wolfs". Reading most of what you wrote sounds like you're whining because it's mostly nit-picking and "straw man arguments". Look it up, sums up everything you do in this thread.

Dog is commonly known to be smarter than it's counter part cats because of its more social attributes (Fact, go look it up). (regardless of my examples, in which case dolphins are smart) Friendly = easier to domesticate. Friendly not always = smarter social attributes but usually vis versa.



They did infact evolve from wolves, Emigrants from Siberia crossed the Bering Strait with dogs in their company, and some experts suggest the use of sled dogs may have been critical to the success of the waves that entered North America roughly 12,000 years ago, around the time dogs where domesticated. You do like to nit pick, cannot be "kidnnaped". Yes, we would have all miss understood that if it was not for you. You cannot kidnap an animal by definition *facepalm*




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Oh, really? I do know we still have wolves so...do or die doesn't really enter the equation.
It was smart for them to become domesticated but you know how i knew you where talking out of your ass?
Most of the details on the evolution of dogs is not there. Certainly "do or die" was not one of them, Human played a part in the domestication but according to study...We aren't even sure we are the cause of the evolution to be precise.
They evolved from wolves, i thought this much you can deduce with your eyes.

Think of sled dogs.

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You knew me at "talking out of your ass"? Is that some sort of convention you frequent? If so, I've never been so such a thing.


Jokes aside, I can certainly say that I didn't pull it out of my own ass, so have a go at this:

So you might wanna talk to Neil's ass and question his sources rather than mine.

and this:

source

Either way, they did it to survive ie. not die. (Do, or die)

So please, tell me, how was I ?

Stay free, noob.

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And yes, i will question his theory
It is a theory for a reason, Do you know why i say there are no concrete facts?
There have been fossils of domesticated dogs predating further than even 15.000 years ago, 30 thousand years...quite the difference in time period. So no, he doesn't know the exact reason dogs evolved that way.

True they would get hunted down if not for the friendly nature, but you know what...a lot of lions and other dangerous species have been "hunted down" for safety reasons but still survived overall. Just so happens that dogs where friendlier.
"They didn't have to kiss ass" like any other predator that's considered dangerous, i highly doubt they would be extinct, there would just be far less wolves in whatever region he was talking about .



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