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4:44 pm, Feb 10 2010
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Bleach was probably amongst the first few mangas I got into and I'm a little disappointed with how its turning out.

In the beginning there was a solid story and the battles that did happen were there to illustrate the growth of ichigo and to help the plot progress. However, now it just seems to be fight after fight. Yes, some of them are like the old ones (the lust chapters) but most of the fights before and after that involving side characters were more or less filler fights that didn't need to happen or be shown imo.

To me, it seems like the author is running out of ideas and is just trying to prolong it and keep it going. I'd hate to see bleach turn into one of those kind of mangas. What I'd like to see happen is a final showdown of Aizen vs Ichigo, him either defeating him or something happen involving Ichigo's new hollowification and the rulers of soul society.

I mean if some kind of major plot development doesn't happen soon it looks like it'll end with Aizen. Because, it set it up in the pendulum swings back chapters that Aizen caused the Vizards to come into existence in his shinigami/hollow experiments so if he the culprit is defeated then problem solved.

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8:20 am, Feb 22 2010
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Of course it'll end with Aizen. For the most part of the manga, Aizen has been the main antagonist. He may not have directly confronted the protagonists like he is now, but he was always the one pulling the strings, even when it looked like he wasn't. If KT tried to continue the story after Aizen is defeated, then he would lose a lot of fans. Aizen is the story. Once he's done, Bleach is done.

Now, back to your other point. Yes, ever since SS, and the Arrancar arc (in Karakura Town), Bleach has become more and more stale. It's just senseless fighting. I've heard all different kinds of arguments as to why the fights in HM are significant, but nothing big has come of that arc yet, so that entire arc is still pointless.

The TBTP arc was good, I must admit. It was the first time since the Arrancar arc that there was a story worth anything. After that, though, the manga has become worse than ever. I'm getting to the point where I'm just reading out of obligation and hoping that the manga doesn't last much longer (I know it'll be at least 2 years).

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9:27 am, Feb 22 2010
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Bah like many shonen it turn bad, but Bleach is one of those rare shonen where there is at least 2 arc worth reading.
Even Naruto or Yu-Gi-Oh strated with a good plot in the first 2-3 volumes, but always something totally useless is done in order to keep people reading and be able to make as many volume as they want.

And like many shonen the main problem is : the run to gain power (the next enemy is always stronger than the hero, not just a little but by a huge gap) and gain it like it's nothing (yay i need less than a year to gain what other character in the manga need their whole life to achieve) or in a stupid way (oh, i m dead... not really i can revive and so i m 1000 time stronger mouhahahaha)

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11:35 am, Feb 22 2010
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Bah like many shonen it turn bad, but Bleach is one of those rare shonen where there is at least 2 arc worth reading.
Even Naruto or Yu-Gi-Oh strated with a good plot in the first 2-3 volumes, but always something totally useless is done in order to keep people reading and be able to make as many volume as they want.

And like many shonen the main problem is : the run to gain power (the next enemy is always stronger than the hero, not just a little but by a huge gap) and gain it like it's nothing (yay i need less than a year to gain what other character in the manga need their whole life to achieve) or in a stupid way (oh, i m dead... not really i can revive and so i m 1000 time stronger mouhahahaha)

Well, I'm not too sure about that. Bleach has 2 good arcs (I'll give it 3: SS, Arrancar in Karakura Town, and the TBTP arc), but Naruto has more than that. The Chunin exams are good, in particular the Preliminary Round fights. Orochimaru's Invasion of Konoha was also excellent, imo. The Search for Tsunade arc was also good, and the Sasuke Retrieval arc was pretty epic.

It starts to go downhill after the time skip, but there are still some gold arcs. The Gaara rescue arc was good. Hidan and Kakuza was another really good one. Then it went stale for a year or so. Then came Pein's invasion of Konoha. That imo, was one of the best arcs to date. Of course, the recent arc has been stale in Naruto, but I expect it to get better becauses of it's history, something I don't expect from Bleach.

Next, you can look at One Piece, the other long running Shounen. It's amazing. One Piece gets better and better as the manga progresses, which is incredible since it's been running for over 10 years.

So you see, I know it's tough to keep a manga fresh after it's been in publication for years, but Bleach doesn't come close to its competition. KT just doesn't seem to have the same ideas and talent as Kishimoto and Oda. Not just in fights, but in story.

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11:33 pm, May 5 2010
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ya this bleach just went to hell as soon as they got to hollow world. the Battles with most the Espiada left a bad after taste of fail in any real fan's mouth. #9 was anticlimactic, #8 sciends was diffrent but over all good to the point you wish he would survive to come back, #7 any fight where someone wins from having the perfect weapon or atk is Boring , #6 [spoiler] #5 good fight / now this is where the shit hits the fan #4 the fight where Ichigo is out matched in every way even to the point of him getting killed but no he doesn't die he turns full hollow which would have been good if he had stayed that way.

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