I think the main issue here is that there is a stereotype now. Yes, I feel insecure, and yes, I care what other people think of me, maybe a little too much. I mean, wouldn't other people just remember Sailor Moon and Pokemon and leave it at that, and just label you as some weird 18 year old who plays with toys from 3rd grade? <---(my ever-anxious thoughts).
And now I feel insecure about even POSTING this, thanks...
If I could just not care what other people thought, I'm sure I would be a lot happier. I'm not saying that there's anything really
wrong about using Japanese in your English speech, but what this topic was made for referred not to the actual Japanese language, but to people who may add 'nyan' to the end of their sentences... Which doesn't make sense in English...
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Well Japan does it for English, it's only fair. They use English because they think it's cool.
If we don't like people using Japanese in their sentences because we think it sounds stupid, does that look like we think Japanese is beneath usage in English sentences?
Sure it IS stupid but I'm just saying...
True. That is true for using it as an effort to use the language, or to use a word that has no translation... but the issue is about when people use it to be part of the fan culture, I feel like .... well, bad... (I was very easy to tease as a kid...)
However, ask this. Are these words an average Japanese student/worker/etc(whatever you are) use these words in daily conversation? Chaos;Head is a perfect example of ... you know... I;m falling asleep, so I'll leave it at this... I'll edit this more in the morning......
(If you are one of those people who don't care what other people think, you talk the way you want, and just don't worry about it. There will be people that don't care, and people who avoid you, but just feel proud that you are strong enough not to let it bother you.)
the main issue is the stereotypes. There are otakus, and then there are people who like to read. I LOVE to read. Manga is a wonderfully new experience that gives life to the story while still leaving things up to the reader's imagination. I DON'T buy figurines.... I gave up on any new collectible things after Elementary School because I could never tell how long I would remain interested. Also, because my neighbors told me I was obsessed with them...
That was so traumatizing... I'm so easily traumatized...
I confess I avoid people who are extreme fans. I'm afraid I do not believe I could be truly comfortable around a person that finds it easy to do things I find embarrassing and uncomfortable... Well, it's easier in college, there are more accepting people here, but at high school, I was really afraid that the kid who made fun of me in elementary school would find some new topic to harass me on.
Kitteh should not have been rebuked for her feelings. Just because YOU(<--not really refering to anyone in particular) don't care what people think, realize that other people might be stressed by that. Here's an example of how I would think every time my the underclassmen in my high school japanese class called me Senpai as they passed me in the halls:
-'Oh, hi!' (positive thought)
-'That person is looking at me...''
'(paranoid anxious negative thought)
-'They must think I'm weird...{;ToT;}
-[SELF-ESTEEM]^````''''**>>= =::;;++~~----\....,,,,_______<
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\.../. . . . .<<----(note the current level)
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|^^^^^^^^^^|--Then, I watch 'Densha Otoko' and feel great about myself......-_- but I didn't know about that until college (a.k.a. NOW)--
There are many types of people who read manga. I like Jiraishin, Banana Fish, Akumetsu, Inugami, Homunculus... Not typical fan-creating manga series. I started Death Note because it was interesting and finished it for the philosophical lesson. I also like Gintama, for its hilarity.
Blakraven, that was hilarious, thank you for making my day
So, probably no one here REALLY cares (beyond maybe finding it annoying) about the PREVIOUSLY EXPLAINED Japanese words in English. I haven't heard any since high school...
Man I wrote a speech here... there's probably an unfinished paragraph lying forgotten in there....
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