Eventually It's all down to goals and means. I don't know how effective this methodology, but if it give you enough skill to understand (even not perfectly) average manga, visual or light novels and anime (with subs), imho it's worth something. Because for many, academic degree in language or fluent Japanese is NOT a goal. For simply reading manga It's excessive.
On the other hand, some people live in the province (or not so developed countries). Chances to attend a proper Japanese classes in some small town or a countryside is close to zero. And go visit school in some other place can be very time-(and money-)consuming. What remains? Remote education? Would it be different or better than self-instruction?
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[Guide] How to play visual novels in Japanese in 2 years time - learn to read VNs by reading VNs
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2:54 pm, Dec 9 2011
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Pissed Off TL0r
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4:23 am, Dec 10 2011
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self-instruction always has it's limits. If you really want a proper understanding you ought to get someone professional to give you hints/advices.
You can leanr the vocabulary, kanji and the general structure of the grammar all by yourself (what I did), but there are various nuances a textbook/guide can't teach you.
Just because you can read Kanji and copy them into a dictionary, doesn't mean you understand japanese-.-
While anime/manga/LN can be a good ADDITIONAL scource, it shouldn't be the primary scource.
You can build up your vocabulary/kanji knowledge pretty good with them, but that's about it.
For proper knowledge of the grammar structure you need someone (preferrebly a native) to explain certain nuances to you, as the textbooks only give a limited view on it.
Well, in the end it all depens on your motivation and effort you put into it.
If you just attend class twice or thrice a week and that's it, of course you can only do basic greetings after 2 semester-.-
If anyone cares, it took me 2 1/2 years of self-study (textbooks + anime) and 1 year at evening school to be able to translate manga with a decent speed (limited use of dictionary, mainly just looking up kanji).
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You can leanr the vocabulary, kanji and the general structure of the grammar all by yourself (what I did), but there are various nuances a textbook/guide can't teach you.
Just because you can read Kanji and copy them into a dictionary, doesn't mean you understand japanese-.-
While anime/manga/LN can be a good ADDITIONAL scource, it shouldn't be the primary scource.
You can build up your vocabulary/kanji knowledge pretty good with them, but that's about it.
For proper knowledge of the grammar structure you need someone (preferrebly a native) to explain certain nuances to you, as the textbooks only give a limited view on it.
Well, in the end it all depens on your motivation and effort you put into it.
If you just attend class twice or thrice a week and that's it, of course you can only do basic greetings after 2 semester-.-
If anyone cares, it took me 2 1/2 years of self-study (textbooks + anime) and 1 year at evening school to be able to translate manga with a decent speed (limited use of dictionary, mainly just looking up kanji).
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A talking rock
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6:11 am, Dec 10 2011
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It's a guide to help you play visual novels in Japanese, not "How to Master Japanese".
Completely agree to:
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Eventually It's all down to goals and means. I don't know how effective this methodology, but if it give you enough skill to understand (even not perfectly) average manga, visual or light novels and anime (with subs), imho it's worth something. Because for many, academic degree in language or fluent Japanese is NOT a goal. For simply reading manga It's excessive.
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The methods documented in this article only teach you how to read. It does nothing for your hearing, speaking or listening skills. The objective is to fast-track your reading skills, enabling you to enjoy over 90% of all video games produced in Japan.
Pissed Off TL0r
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If you just want to ENJOY the LN then you don't need to learn 2000 Kanji...
There are various programms that copy you the text out from the LN and a dictionary (heck even google TL) can give you an overview what the sentences means-.-
If you don't UNDERSTAND japanese, then simple knowledge of Kanji won't help you anyway.
No need to waste your time learning damn 2000 kanjis....
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There are various programms that copy you the text out from the LN and a dictionary (heck even google TL) can give you an overview what the sentences means-.-
If you don't UNDERSTAND japanese, then simple knowledge of Kanji won't help you anyway.
No need to waste your time learning damn 2000 kanjis....
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