just had to have you quoted again for basically the official truth of this answer. without a doubt his wins in S.S were pretty much plot armor and underestimation on the Captain's part. he basically got by with them kind of half assing things really. that, and he kept catching them by surprise with his power level spikes. he peaks and wains a lot. almost to much actually, which testifies to Ulquiorra's statements about his power he made to Aizen.

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he's not getting weaker it's just that the enimies are getting stronger ichigo basically gains the most strength from having someone to protect from what i'v seen in the last ep before the side stories the whole town is in trouble so he has a whole lot to to try to save sure his power really is unstable but i won't underestimate ichigo i'm not sure how it'll end

Ichigo will eventualy be the one to take out aizen after another one of kubo's ichigo inconsistencies.

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"Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome."

It seems the reason Ichigo has been getting weaker is because the story was supposed to end with SS. Seems Kubo was talked into lengthening the story and the only way to do that is to introduce stronger characters while instantly boosting some of the others and making Ichigo appear weaker than before. That's the reason he was given the inner hollow in order to counter his vast amount of spiritual energy.

y ta F would he have wanted to end at SS arc, i kind of doubt that he would not have needed all those characters then but there were a lot of them, there were a lot of clues and hints giving in SS arc that later come up it was planned i would say. unless he planned to do until SS arc before he started SS arc and then right when he started he was convinced to do more...

Either way who gives a fuck we got more Bleach. hehe

look, obviously this is the writer's fault. At first, he intended the Captains to be the most powerful 'antagonist' in the story line, but then the manga actually became something and more story have to be added. So the story was changed and inconsistency occurs.

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Hi everyone, this is my first post here.

Well I for one don't think that Ichigo is getting weaker, ok it is hard to believe that. Because of all the fighting and him losing all the time. But his last transformation into the SSJ3 like you guys cal him is freaking awesome.

Well I thought of a theory for this transformation, I don't know if anyone already said it cause I don't want to re-read all the earlier post.

Here is what I think:
Remember what Urahara said to Orihime and Chad about there power being awekened under influence of Ichigo.

And check chapter 260 for an explanation in the power boost of Chad vs that arrancar. He said that his power was different from Shinigami's and Quincy's. Because it was close to that of a Hollow and how it was rumbling and growing because it was affected by the fact that they were in Hueco Mundo.

Now put that theory in practice with Ichigo. I thought that Ichigo's hollow form was that of an Adjuchas or how you spell it. Maybe it was an Adjuchas and it evolved into a Vasto Lord when he was in Hueco Mundo fighting with is mask using his Hollow powers.

Well that concludes my theory and my first post So what do you guys think about this? Is it possible?

Did you guys forget that Shinji's picture was in the first chapter of bleach?
http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/1/03-04/

So he didn't really want to end this at SS arc.

0wned.

Besides, this very thread has lost its meaning imho, now that 1-5 ( ) has powered up to SS3. Well it was somewhat predictable, after a peak of weakness comes a peak of uberness. Pretty lame, but hey, its a shounen.


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That doesn't really mean that he waned to continue it after the SS arc. It seems like Kubo put Shinji there because was supposed to be in the beginning of Bleach (As a friend, rival, or ally like Rukia) but couldn't do it probably because of him not finding a place to put him in the pre-SS storyline, wanting to change the storyline afterwards, or executive meddling. He then probably decided to save him for a later arc. And if you look at the left side of that pic in the link, someone that resembles Rangiku is to the left of Orihime. He had her planned too, but decided to save her for a future arc possibly because of the same reasons I stated above.

And IMO it did seem like he didn't want to have anything else after the SS arc. Here's my theory on it:

Everything from after the SS arc onwards is just another example of executive meddling, like they did with Toriyama and Dragonball Z. When they told him that he had to keep going after the SS arc, he had to add certain things in that when taken out, would prove that it was going to end then and there. If you simply take out Aizen's hypnosis power and all of the things he did to trick everyone, then it would've been a simple rescue arc with Ichigo and co. facing against Soul Society, saving Rukia at the end, and ending the series by going back to Karakura Town while leaving Rukia there. Or with an epilogue of some sort. And since Kubo wrote Soul Society in a way so that it has existed for thousands of years, he saw an opportunity to do a flashback arc about Aizen's scheming, when the truth is that he actually retconned Bleach from Ichigo simply saving Rukia, to Aizen having this plan that goes many years back so that it SEEMS like Aizen was planning this long ago, therefore having readers think Kubo was planning for the Arrancar and HM arcs to happen, when in truth, he probably remembered he didn't show that much of Soul Society's past, and decided to use that to patch up the little holes about this whole thing with Aizen.

Besides, why would Rukia tell Ichigo that she wanted to stay in Soul Society, and then all of a sudden come back without any logical reason as to why she came back? Or the fact that she starts using her shikai (Which seems like a poorly thought up power increase since the enemies got stronger, and which she apparently has had since before the first chapter) after she comes back, when she could've used her shikai to defeat the hollow in the first chapter of Bleach, thus making all of Bleach a plot hole?

I know anyone reading all this might be thinking "You take everything too seriously!" or "Sometimes you just have to ignore certain things in a story in order to enjoy it!", but breaking down stories like that is how I think. I want to be a writer, so I look at any story I read or watch from a writer's point of view. Seeing how people build a story from the ground up, how they add in characters. plots, settings, different powers and devices, all of that, so when I come out with my story, it'll be a story anyone can enjoy that's also near-perfect,and/or without any plot holes. I still enjoy the stories when I do this (Except for the poorly done ones), but that doesn't mean I shouldn't in a way dissect that story and see how it ticks while I'm enjoying it.

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