Where went the tags go to?

14 years ago
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This is more a complain( my apologies if it is added on the wrong place).
I just noticed that someone had some fun to removing Tags/Categories, and off course some of them were regularly used by me. And now I can't find the series that I wanted too read, the only thing I know is that it had "Tall girl"as a tag, but this tag disappeared suddenly from the database. (The only thing that I know is, that their are around 10 chapters scanned, the tall girl is a witch that needs to protect the main character. Much more, I don't remember from the summary).
(Note: Please, don't say to check my wish list, their are already over 800 series into it 😐 .)
If I want to find a specific series, I always search on tags of the characters or the points that were displayed in picture attached to it. I'm really bad in names, certainly in if their in Japanese. So I would prefer to not remove tags that are easily for recognizing series.
I'm already annoyed that I need to check myanimelist regular for character information, as their is no character information on mangaupdates. 😔
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14 years ago
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14 years ago
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Quote from GhostWriter
Sounds like Witchcraft Works...?
It's indeed the series that I'm looking for (Thanks anyway), now the issue still remains....
Who removed those tags? Their are still some series left that I want to read with such tag. 😔
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14 years ago
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Huh, you're right, the "tall girl" tag seems to have been removed.
Maybe it didn't have many things under it and they wanted to remove it? But that probably isn't the case, given that there are so many tags with just one or two under it.
I like tall girls, too. ;_;

14 years ago
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Huh, you're right, the "tall girl" tag seems to have been removed.
Maybe it didn't have many things under it and they wanted to remove it? But that probably isn't the case, given that there are so many tags with just one or two under it.
I like tall girls, too. ;_;
Over a hundred series it had, is more than enough, their are a lot of tags only used once. 😉
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14 years ago
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From google cache... do not add it back until someone says you can.
14-sai no Koi
Ageha
Akaneiro Show Time
Akira to Hiyori
Baby Love
Bamboo Blade B
Beniiro Hero
Boinzuma
Boku no Kirai na Kimi no Koto
Boku no Suki na Otokonoko
Bra Bra Ban Ban
Butterfly Kiss
Cat and Bird
Catch! Ai
Chat
Cherish (OOTSUKA Poteto)
Cosplay Deka
Cutie x Beast
Cyclops Shoujo Saipu~
Datte Aishiteru (AKIRA Shouko)
Diamond Kiss
Double Lip
Dr. wa Ijiwaru na Kiss de
Eru-Eru Sister
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14 years ago
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Don't look at me. I got nothing to do with tags
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14 years ago
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From google cache... do not add it back until someone says you can.
14-sai no Koi
Ageha
Akaneiro Show Time
Akira to Hiyori
Baby Love
Bamboo Blade B
Beniiro Hero
Boinzuma
Boku no Kirai na Kimi no Koto
Boku no Suki na Otokonoko
Bra Bra Ban Ban
Butterfly Kiss
Cat and Bird
Catch! Ai
Chat
Cherish (OOTSUKA Poteto)
Cosplay Deka
Cutie x Beast
Cyclops Shoujo Saipu~
Datte Aishiteru (AKIRA Shouko)
Diamond Kiss
Double Lip
Dr. wa Ijiwaru na Kiss de
Eru-Eru Sister
Fukuyadou Honpo
O yeah,
and what about:
- short girl
- short boy
- tall boy
I like stories with some height difference, I've still got some series (I thought 3) were their is a short girl and a tall boy are part of the plot. Vice versa I found only one good one. 🙄
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14 years ago
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I'm pretty sure we created a log to keep track of these things. I'll ping a dev when I get a chance.

14 years ago
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I'm the one who deleted the Tall Girl tag. I also deleted Tall Boy, Short Girl, Short Boy, and similar categories such as Lazy Character, Popular Character, etc.
This is my reasoning: So if a series has the Tall Girl tag, it means there's a girl in the series who is tall... it doesn't seem important enough to merit having a tag. Also, it is overly common--so many series have a tall girl character in them that it doesn't seem very noteworthy. (I have the same reasoning for the other tags I mentioned above. (Ex., a series has a character who is lazy in it. But, so what? It's not important enough to have a tag; therefore Lazy Character isn't a good tag.))
So what I mean is, the problem with those kinds of tags is the generality of words like "girl" and "character"... because "___ girl" could be any girl in the manga--not even necessarily a main character. So Tall Girl is a bad tag, it's too general and not very important, but Tall Female Lead is okay because it's important enough and specific enough to be useful. (Tall Female Side Character is kind of specific, but not important, so it would be a bad tag). Same thing with "___ character" (unless it is something unusual, like Blind Character). That is my thinking, anyway.
If you still disagree, please reply here and provide your reasoning why you think Tall Girl (and similar tags too, if you like) are good enough that they should be allowed. Hopefully we can have a discussion and reach a good conclusion here. Since I'm the one who deleted them, I'll take responsilibilty and do the work of re-adding them if it is decided that that's what should be done (because in that case, I'd be the one who made the mistake).
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So what I mean is, the problem with those kinds of tags is the generality of words like "girl" and "character"... because "___ girl" could be any girl in the manga--not even necessarily a main character.
Isn't that why people vote on the category tags?
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14 years ago
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Isn't that why people vote on the category tags?
Mods exist for a reason. Communities have a tendency to be stupid, for instance insisting that One Piece should have romance as a genre.

14 years ago
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Somebody sent me a good question yesterday, asking me to clarify something. I'm going to answer it here in an effort to clear up any confusion:
Quote from anonymous
Well, I can definitely see where you are coming from with deleting the less specific things, but I guess I'm unsure as to what you fully meant. Are you saying that "tall girl" should be replaced with "tall female lead", if the situation warrants it? Or just getting rid of the thing as a whole? The answer is a little complicated because it seems that I misjudged how important people feel that tags about height are:
At the time when I deleted the Tall/Short Girl and Tall/Short Boy tags, I thought that most people would not think height tags were very useful. So I thought of things like this:
Tall/Short Girl and Tall/Short Boy: too general, too common, not important, height is not very useful --> delete
*Tall/Short Female Lead and Tall/Short Male Lead: height is not very useful, but it is specific enough --> not a great category, but I'll leave it since it's not terribly bad
[*This tag doesn't exist, but this is what I would think if it did.]
But now, seeing that several users care enough about it to mention it on the forums, I have to reconsider. Before, I would have said, for example, that it would be better just to delete all of the Tall Girl entries, and that it wouldn't be worth it to look through and replace them (where applicable) with Tall Female Lead, since that isn't a very good category anyway (although I would not have complained or deleted any Tall Female Lead entries if members added them, since the category isn't bad enough to delete). But I see that I must have misjudged people's feelings about height tags, so now I must say yes, the Tall Girl entries should be replaced with Tall Female Lead where applicable (and of course, similar situation for Short Girl, Tall Boy, and Short Boy).
Since it's my mistake and it should be easy to tell where it's applicable, I'll go ahead and do this for the Tall/Short Girl and Tall/Short Boy tags, if I can learn how to access the Google cache like Toto did to see the list of entries--I'll have to PM him and ask him how he did that. I should have time to hear back from him and then fix the tags within the next couple days.
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Physical or behavioral character qualities, like height or laziness, are often a major focus in romance manga. Whole series are written about how two character types might interact together. What if someone really serious and uptight fell in love with someone silly and scattered? (Nodame Cantabile) What if some really tall girl dated a really short guy? (Lovely Complex) People also have preferences on what sorts of couples they like to read about, and I imagine this carries into other genres as well. I guess I didn't explain this point very well either in my first post. I think tags describing character attributes are fine, so long as the tag isn't something so general like "[attribute] girl" or "[attribute] character."
In other words, the kind of tags we're discussing in this thread have two parts: first part is the attribute (lazy, uptight, etc.) and the second part is like the character type (girl, character, male lead, female lead, protagonist). The problem with Lazy Character and Popular Character and similar tags is the second part of it, not the first part.
For example, this is my thinking:
Violent Character: "violent" is fine but "character" is too general, too common, not important --> delete
Violent Female Lead and Violent Male Lead: no problem --> it can stay
*Violent Protagonist: mostly fine, but for violence, gender may matter --> it should probably be split into Male Lead and Female Lead versions
[*This is an extra bit of complication to what we're discussing, but I thought I might as well mention it since it is naturally an issue of the more specific versions of the "[attribute] [char. type]" tags.]
For Tall/Short Girl and Tall/Short Boy, I initially thought there was a problem with not only the second part but also the first. But in light of member feedback, I've reconsidered--I now consider only the second part of them to be the problem (see first segment of post).
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Also, what happened to the "Character Who Loves Sweets", "Character Who Loves Cute Things", etc. tags? Those two tags were deleted by me, for the reason I mentioned above. ("loving sweets"/"loving cute things" is fine but "character" is too general, too common, not important.)
Edit:
I just remembered there are a couple things that may seem strange in light of the explanation I just gave. You'll see that I left, for example, Blind Character, Weird Characters, and Character Who Teases the One They Love. Here's my reasoning for keeping them:
Blind Character: "character" is too general & too common, but "blind" is unusual/uncommon enough to make up for it --> it can probably stay
Weird Characters: this is not just one character, but means that the majority of the characters in the series are weird --> it can stay
Character Who Teases the One They Love: "character" is too general & too common, but it's clear that this character is specifically a lover, which makes it a bit more specific --> not a great category because it's still pretty general, but it can probably stay
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Isn't that why people vote on the category tags? The category, or tag, feature (they're both the same thing, so everybody uses the terms interchangeably) is kind of like the human body and user voting is kind of like the category feature's immune system. It usually does a decent job of keeping the category section "healthy," but sometimes problems arise and it needs "treatment/medicine" (editing) from "doctors" (the staff).

14 years ago
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Well, an extensive tagging system aims to be as descriptive as possible, and is not meant to be perfect.
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