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Our values determined by the society we raised in, if a person raised in a society of outlaws, naturally he would taken the ways of the outlaws as the ultimate ways of his life. The point is dont judge others when u dont know the whole truth, for us it might be sick but maybe not for them.
In the end of day how do you know which one is right and which one us wrong, prejudices only serves to make humankind more and more hypocrites. Is a son of a killer worthy of being picked because of his father's sin? Society says incest is wrong, is it ultimately wrong? Is loving a sins? Loving the wrong person doesn't always happens in incest, it happens in cheating also, but why do society think its better than that of incest? Human are stupid, perverted and unjust race (yes, including myself), why does 2 wrong things can be treated differently (incest and cheating) when both are equally wrong? In what ways does cheating better than incest?
I'd say human are unfair, cause the very foundation of society itselfs, the one we called norm are easily swayed and changed according to our needs, if you want to says they are sick than do the equal thing to all other perverted people who do wrong things in relationship (same sex marriage, cheating, raping, etc) dont just condemn incest relationship and close your eyes to all other things.
Personally i am disgusted with human (including myself) for being a hypocrite a**ho***, who judged right when they like it and wrong when they hate it. And the above comment is what i hate the most, bashing others without thinking, just cause you think u're right doesn't necessarily means u're right, others might think differently, again it depends on the society values we were thought while we grow up. Before bashing others try learning the whole truth first, some are worthy being bashed some are not.
Seems like someone doesn't know how to take a joke.
Whoever said I was right? If you like it go ahead read as much incest manga as you like. DIY for all I care.
As for the more serious part of the discussion, religion (generally) says incest is wrong, society (all I know of) shuns incest and law.... well I'm not a lawyer so I don't know. If a certain society promotes incest, what sort of truth might they hold to justify their actions?
If no one knows who is right or who is wrong at the end of the day. Is being indecisive any better? That's why we make ourselves believe we've done the right thing. If no one knows right from wrong, then no one knows wrong from right. Then people can only assume whether certain things are right or wrong. Thus we ourselves based on others and judge others based on ourselves. If there is no "objective truth" then we'll have to make do with "subjective truth" a.k.a. society's norms, values, religion, law, etc.
If a kid is picked on cos his father is a killer, the perpetrator either :
- wants to be the next target on the hit list
- has some issues with superiority and bullies the kid with "son of Kira" being the excuse
Stupidity never ceases to amaze me. At where I come from, some chick became pres cos she's the daughter of the dude who claimed independence. She was not a very bright chick.
If incest and adultery are equally wrong, then judge them equally wrong. Lash out your indecision on the net and you'll be a laughing stock.
Is loving a sin? Not in any religion I know of.
The thing which makes incest what it is, is the sexuality. I'm gonna assume love and "that" different. That's why lovin' yo sista' aint wrong.
If you're part of the society which punishes incest and adultery differently, BE a part of the society, change it. Whining on mangaupdates doesn't help.
Humans are unfair? Guess what, you're one of them.
Norms are easily swayed? Of course they are easily swayed, that's cos they stand on our shoulders and we worship them, should we be tired of one of them, we start worshipping another. Norms are products of our mind, and as products, they serve US, we don't submit to them.
Why are you bringing up homosexuality, adultery and rape? The topic here is incest. But since you've stated it, I'll go along anyway. The first thing is, fix up your English and maybe I'd be able to make a fitting answer to the following :
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if you want to says they are sick than do the equal thing to all other perverted people who do wrong things in relationship (same sex marriage, cheating, raping, etc) dont just condemn incest relationship and close your eyes to all other things.
But I'll just have to try to fill in the blanks and assume that you're trying to say :
"If you wanna say incest is wrong, then say homosexuality, adultery, and rape are wrong too"
Well umm....like....the topic is obviously incest, not "the not so straight side of you know what"
If I were to order them according to the increase of perversion, I'd make em Adultery - Incest - Rape - Homosexuality (Yes, I really don't like the queer)
Sheesh, this is gonna move to 18+ if it keeps going on.
Judging right when one is fitting and judging wrong when otherwise? That's called utilitarian, in a world where no one can guarantee the morally right, we base our decisions on experience in human relations and such and such. Being angsty doesn't help you in making decisions.
My comment is what you hate most? Hate with all your heart, I dare you.
Just because I assume I'm right it doesn't necessarily mean I'm right. Right? That's why we have optimism, so we think we're right, reduce cognitive dissonance and gain more peace (or reduce the chaos) in our mind.
Others think differently? You can think you're the messiah and I wont give a damn.
Before bashing others, learn the truth? What the hell? The context was incest in general, not what do you think about incest in "this specific couple". If some people were forced into incest, I blame the ones who forced them. If some people voluntarily and willingly commit incest, I blame them.
Last edited by KungFluFighter at 7:28 am, Sep 21 2010