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Post #590696 - Reply to (#590694) by rexytheking
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12:15 pm, Mar 13 2013
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Moria did not die, he escaped, Doflamingo even said so to a high ranked marine officer that he just disappeared, Absalom anyone? *wink wink* and I highly disagree with your speculation about Fujitora, just sounds ridiculous but you are entitled to your opinions I suppose.

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He said he "disappeared" because he killed him out of his jurisdiction. Basically it's like a kid feigning innocence after doing something bad. I'm pretty sure he died though...
About fujitora, i know there is no proof at all but .i've only seen him for literally half a chapter. It's just an interesting plot twist?

Post #590713 - Reply to (#590712) by rexytheking
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He disappeared due to Absaloms ability, Doflamingo even said that he did not know Moria had such an ability, he did not know someone else was there. It is highly likely Absalom saved him and Dr. Hogback healed him of his wounds him seeing as Doflamingo said he should be beyond saving but he did not know Moria had such a skilled doctor. Now we have an subordinate of Moria who can go invisible/disappear + Moria quite likely to die injuries + quite a skilled doctor = Do you need more or? In short it is just highly likely he survived due to how ambiguous his "supposed" death was with all those elements mixed in. And no it would not make a interesting plot twist in my opinion, if it does happen however I sure hope Oda can work his magics on it. We are probably even going to get a Moria flashback short/long I don't know but if it happens it will be related to Kaido seeing as he butchered Moria's crew. Quite possibly aid the Strawhat/Law alliance against Kaido.

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I think you are misunderstanding the supa supa no mi(invisible fruit)... It's powers can't be transferred over to others... Besides, i don't think doflamingo would be so weak as to let them escape even if he somehow turned invisible. I'm pretty sure he has haki after all and can see if he turned invisible. There is no tangible proof that he is still alive though. If however he is still alive according to the points you described, I can see another crocodile like partner in moria helping luffy's crew against kaidou...though i wont like it much. This of course is the next arc after doflamingo. It's kind of connected, but i think oda will make kaidou an arc by itself and give doflamingo his own arc.

Post #590716 - Reply to (#590714) by rexytheking
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I think you are misunderstanding the supa supa no mi(invisible fruit)... It's powers can't be transferred over to others...


Huh? But didn't the Supa Supa no mi allow the user to turn anybody or anything in contact with them invisible as well, like when Absolem kept two guns invisible and even turned Nami invisible during his fight against Sanji.

Post #590718 - Reply to (#590714) by rexytheking
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IT does if the owner of Supa supa no mi touches something else, such as when he touched bazookas and turned them invisible which he made into a technique or the ship when they ran away from Thriller Park, please don't try to argue if you don't know yourself what the fruit does. On another note have no reason to believe that observation haki can see invisible things active through the devil fruit and even if he does he has to actively concentrate on using in. Doflamingo even said he disappeared in thin air, so it was either Morias shadow swapping but then Doflamingo wouldn't say that he disappeared since he would be able to see the shadow, and Absalom should be strong enough to be able to lift Moria.
Man when I post this fact someone also did it sad

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Right. Sorry, forgot about the bazookas. But that still doesn't disproves the fact that doflamingo could see invisible things. Haki of observation can "discern people in locations invisible to the naked eye". (Chapter 597-13)I don't see why he wouldn't have done that if moria supposedly suddenly disappeared(which i still don't believe 100% btw) anyways all this proves is that moria is still alive and doflamingo hated moria, i don't see any reason he would just let him go.

Post #590722 - Reply to (#590720) by rexytheking
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It discerns location invisible to the naked eye.....location, it can probably sense an area and the visible people in it, it has not been stated or seen if it works on invisibility skills, and he has to activate it but was maybe to late seeing as he was surprised and it has not been stated that Doflamingo can use observation haki, highly likely he could but then it also doesn't mean he is skilled in the usage of it. From the looks of it he would prefer armament haki more than observation.

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hmmm, didn't think my comment would supply this much of a feedback but here's proof then:
first and foremost is this part right here: http://mangafox.me/manga/one_piece/v50/c486/3.html
look carefully at the ship and you will see it's the same one as the one escaping here: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/158793/one-piece_ch700_by_man garule/3
together with the invisibility fruit and the part about abusa and abusaromu, I'd say it's definite proof of him being the freelancer.
Second even if Moria was dead which I doubt, Absalom would be alive and kicking since I remember Hogback saying that he built him very special and sturdy that even shadow asgard won't do much against him or Moria's death for that matter. Not to mention that Moria has not only Absalom who can turn invisible to disappear but his own shadow tricks to help him escape, or for that matter Doflamingo was simply lying and let him go for his own purpose or some other, but the best bet would be Absalom turning them invisible which he can if you look at the page above, not only others but a whole ship.

perception as stated only helps him sense presence not completely pinpoint the location like some special vision ability, not to mention in that whole mess I doubt they would notice much and Absalom was already gone by the time Doffy appeared so it all makes more then enough sense

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