Did you take into account the type of banana, the duration of which since it was peeled (it would be more moist if it were days old), and as chineserider mentions, the surface type?
The potential is still there, just as there is a potential that a potato chip bag could cause one to slip and fall.

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i tried it on the most slipper surface i could think of, marble (it was fake marble but still), when it comes to weight, extra weight would only make it harder to fall, when we walk the feet on the ground won't be lift until the other one touch the ground so it's kind of hard to lose balance if the weigh is evenly distributed. (you may made a split but hardly fall )

At best a peel would make you fall if you start running and step hard on it while your other feet is on the air, and even then there is a good chance that you might just lose balance for a moment, with out falling.

But please. don't take my world, try it out some time.

Also it's not like it's impossible, but the thing is that in your every day life the chances of falling for a banana peel are near to 0


EDIT1: About the kind of banana, beside Musa acuminata and Musa balbisiana there are hardly any other that can be get on stores and their peel is almost the same



EDIT2: It's amazing how much that question make us discuss, i love to be on one side of the debate

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Thanks for taking my question so seriously, I've been thinking about it since I was little I suppose you guys are right, it's theoretically possible, but so many factors play a big role here (the type of surface, how the person steps on the peel... and that person should be really careless) that it's nearly impossible...
And I didn't know the Mythbusters checked this myth, I must have missed that episode...
Thanks again, another mystery from my childhood solved

I have a question, what do you people think of mangas that totally change the story (to fighting shonen, Hitman Reborn or From a little Echi to Full load of Echi, to love ru, for example) when they start loosing readers or mangakas that go along with the popularity polls to change their history?


For me is not like i don't like it, but i always took fiction a little to seriously when i like the history so it's kind of hard on me thinking how the manga changed to get "popular", i'm waiting for your opinion

Shouldn't a story always strive to be the best it can? If your readership shrinks when you're doing nothing different, chances are you're doing something wrong. When that happens, it makes logical sense to asses what you've done up to that point and reiterate the most successful elements, be it popular characters, additional fight scenes, etc. etc.

Besides, contrary to popular belief, most serials (aside from intentionally short-term pieces in magazines like Big Comic Spirits) don't have much more than a vague idea where they're going anyway. It's not like changing is really going to hurt the integrity of the story if it doesn't have a defined direction anyway... so I don't think the story's history actually changes, certain parts are just fleshed out in ways that contradict previous expectations.

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You are right, but that wasn't what i was trying to said, i mind changing from Romantic Comedy to -> Action, for example.


Or putting a character to do something kind of unrelated to his personality 'cos they want him/her to be more on the history.

For example Angel Densetsu and Claymore author, Yagi Norihiro, refuse making popularity polls to keep the story "clean", mining, right how it comes out of his mind.



EDIT: To make this more clear, i'm only asking if you prefer " Popular Manga" that adapts to Fans or "Original Manga" (no better expression comes to my mind right now)

Also most Seinen Mangakas have a pretty clear idea of where they are going, Example: "Zetman"

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We're trying to figure out who he's fixing her hair to look like in the red box.



First box: Sa**e
Probably some old manga character with distinctive hair, like the next one...does anyone know?

Second Box: A**mu
(Ena is referring to Astro Boy. He's saying Atomu (or atom), which is the original Japanese name for Astro Boy: "Tetsuwan Atomu", literally Iron-arm Atom)

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Maybe "Sazae-san"

Actually, both of those examples were completely covered by my explanation. That was sort of the point. When the public responds really negatively, you have to make big changes to keep things afloat. You might change the genre, increase the use of a popular character, etc. etc. An author that's sitting somewhere in the middle might just do that to try to increase their success, even if they aren't desperate. It's logical when you're dealing with a product, and I think this is the key point.

What you seem not to understand is that serials are not the same as fully published volumes. It's not like a novel, where the entire thing is published at once. It's an ongoing work in progress, and as an inherent result its reception as a product comes before its reception as a work of art. If a series is going to continue, an artist can't just say "mrrhrrr I don't care about popularity" unless they're already an established author (or if they're willing to publish in a slightly less prominent magazine like the author you mentioned, in which case the sales are still lower). The magazines do their own polls and surveys, so no writer is unaffected. We're talking about a highly competitive profession. There's no room for that sort of arrogance.

As for series being planned, it's probably true that magazines with lower circulation have more leeway, but even the meticulous writers like Urasawa Naoki are still basically forced to work off the cuff given the time constraints. There may be a few exceptions for certain insane or absurdly talented individuals, but the fact of the matter is that aside from a vague "I want to get here eventually" most authors are content to just take the thing along as far as they can before they're forced to end with a whimper. The same phenomenon has affected dozens upon dozens of television programs over the years. It's just the nature of serialization.

So, to shorten my needlessly lengthy answer to your question: "It doesn't matter, they're all affected by sales and popularity, so even if a writer claims otherwise, it's a lie in the vast majority of cases."

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Listen, i get the whole, "i want to be right no matter what" point but you are going too far, many Mangakas have an Ending planed, and the thing about changing the story in accordance with public response is logic but there are a lot of mangakas that prefer ending the story earlier rather than changing the hole thing to another gender, at the same time i know that there are a lot of guys that love "cult" mangas rather than going for the most popular shonens, Also, manga directed to older readers such as Josei/Seinen, tend to have an ending right from the start, Like i already said, Zetman for example that starts with an scene of the end or Monster that is all about discovering the true

I'm not talking about small time changes on the plot, it's about making the history be about another thing with the same main characters, a lot of manga lovers are against this, i just wanted to know in which side people here where.

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I wasn't aware that we were arguing... odd... I was just presenting information in answer to a question. Take it however you want, though. The size of the change doesn't matter, the principle is the same. If you're not getting that, or don't possess strong enough English skills to articulate why it's not, then that's your problem, I suppose.

Nijuu Seiki Shounen also starts with a scene from the ending. Do you honestly believe that all 350~odd chapters were planned out in some sort of outline? That's the vagueness I'm talking about. The example is irrelevant. I said from the start that shorter pieces in mags like Big Comic Spirits are probably planned in their entirety, but there's a big difference in the publishing methodology for smaller outlets.

If you're getting down to "get rid of it or keep it with drastic changes," I still don't think it really matters, but if you have to have an answer I'm for it. It's still the same thing. If the change is successful the work will stick around, if it isn't it'll end anyway. If it works, why knock it? Clearly more people are enjoying it than were before. No one should be staunchly opposed to changes in principle. The ones that are find themselves permanently behind the curve.

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Man, i really don't understand what's your problem, i didn't said we where arguing but you just keep going with such and exaggeration after another. I'm just saying that there are some magas that keep changes based on polls to the limit, on the other hand there are others that just suddenly changes from comedy to acction or even softporn when they are not doing very well. Like for example how Rosario Vampire become a fighting shonen lately

Some people likes that kind of changes, some people don't

Are you in one side or the other, nothing else. Is really hard not to take all that text you keep writing as a "Whatever i said is true and that's it" kind of thing.



EDIT: And my english suck, deal with it, i learned it from the internet what do you want? that is for the post under me too.

This bit amuses me.

I want people to get better at English (at least high-school level) before engaging in an online argument - where it be knowingly or unknowingly. It would help avoid a whole lot of misunderstandings. (This goes out to the general public btw, not just you.)
Oh, and I also want a million dollars.

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