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I remember watching a little show on Japan not too long ago about the Atomic Bomb and how some Japanese think about it now days. Its pretty interesting to see how much some Japanese hate us about the bombing and stuff.

My half-Japanese friend (that speaks no Japanese I might add laugh ) one time talked about the bombing and some other stuff and pretty much she was really pissed about it, but my Japanese step-grandma, who actually had friends that DIED in the bombing holds no ill will towards the U.S. She doesn't even hold anything against us when we put Japanese in the camps. She always responds "its not nearly as bad as what the Japanese did to the Americans."


Anyway, I just think it is interesting to see everybody's perception on things. And countries to tend to omit a lot of things about their dark past (although I do agree that Germany is pretty good at admitting what happened in the past was wrong, etc etc. Go Germany!)

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Yeah. I always thought it was kind of funny how in my US History text book, there were literally one sentence on the My Lai Massacre.

And it really was just something like "After that, the My Lai Massacre took place."


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Really? My textbook had a lot of info on that, not including the stuff that my teacher told us. (He's white and was in the US)

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Anyway, I just think it is interesting to see everybody's perception on things. And countries to tend to omit a lot of things about their dark past (although I do agree that Germany is pretty good at admitting what happened in the past was wrong, etc etc. Go Germany!)


Although I do think that Germany does a good job (and quite possibly would even if this wasn't the case), it's worth noting that European Union laws prevent them from denying the holocaust.


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Anyway, I just think it is interesting to see everybody's perception on things. And countries to tend to omit a lot of things about their dark past (although I do agree that Germany is pretty good at admitting what happened in the past was wrong, etc etc. Go Germany!)


Although I do think that Germany does a good job (and quite possibly would even if this wasn't the case), it's worth noting that European Union laws prevent them from denying the holocaust.

Germany already had it's own laws against holocaust/war crimes denial before the EU brought them in.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial

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Anyway, I just think it is interesting to see everybody's perception on things. And countries to tend to omit a lot of things about their dark past (although I do agree that Germany is pretty good at admitting what happened in the past was wrong, etc etc. Go Germany!)


Although I do think that Germany does a good job (and quite possibly would even if this wasn't the case), it's worth noting that European Union laws prevent them from denying the holocaust.

But even before the European Union came into existance Germany taught about the Holocaust. The EU had nothing to do with that. Germany did not want another genocide (among other things) to happen so they took the proper precautions. http://www.iearn.org/hgp/aeti/aeti-1998-no-frames/holocaust-ed -in-germany.htm I'd love to take some classes on the Holocaust in Germany, I bet it would be amazingly informative.

edit: this thread reminded me about Turkey and about their wonderful denial of the Armenian genocide sad

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I stand corrected. That's very impressive.

I agree, it would be definitely be an interesting class to take.

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My half-Japanese friend (that speaks no Japanese I might add laugh ) one time talked about the bombing and some other stuff and pretty much she was really pissed about it, but my Japanese step-grandma, who actually had friends that DIED in the bombing holds no ill will towards the U.S. She doesn't even hold anything against us when we put Japanese in the camps. She always responds "its not nearly as bad as what the Japanese did to the Americans."

We never made them march hundreds of miles just to thin out their numbers. Although, we made that mistake once before with the native americans. Most of them are still getting shafted.

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Uhh.....I heard about it too. It was on some major newspaper last year. Japan edited their history books saying that their occupation on China, Korea, and other country was not an act of war but for the purpose of saving China, Korea and other countries from ignorance......yeah......it seems that they want to bury of past of their shameful behaviors. There are a lot of documentary about Japan committing inhuman experiments on innocent people ...I feel horrified that any country other than Nazi Germany could do such a thing. What caused such hatred?

Of course this does not justify that A-Bomb explosion nor that removal of many Japanese during WWII in America.

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i rem from somwhere that during the nanking massacre one of the torture was to have u striped freeze outside n then after a while they tap yr fingers n they would fall off
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its hard to get citizenshipin japan you have to be japanese n born there or u have to live 5yrs in japan n then apply but u need to marry,havea student visa or working permit to live there5yrs no dual citizenship either so u can live there but u wont have the citizen rights.. none

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Love and peace ppl,
Love and peace ftw

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This.

I couldn't really care less if they change their "History", since the truth will always be out there.

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today they are trying to rewrite history in their textbooks, and also have said america was the one that massacred million people in hiroshima bombing during world war II, which everyone except japan knows it was a responding retaliation from pearl harbor....

You may want to take a look in your own textbooks before accusing others of faking history, because this simple reasoning of the nuclear bombing at the end of WWII is entirely the American perspective. roll eyes

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Although I do think that Germany does a good job (and quite possibly would even if this wasn't the case), it's worth noting that European Union laws prevent them from denying the holocaust.

Actually no. We invented this law on our own and try since some time to get this into EU wide law - but other European countries refuse. We actually have a very strict law concerning the happenings in WWII.

And you may find it funny, but no one right in their mind here denies the Holocaust. It's a obligatory part of German school education (e.g. the Diary of Anne Frank) to show the kids what happened back then, including visits to extermination camps.

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The title should be: most countries rewrite history OMG!! eek

The best you can do is search different sources of information.
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Although I do think that Germany does a good job (and quite possibly would even if this wasn't the case), it's worth noting that European Union laws prevent them from denying the holocaust.

Actually no. We invented this law on our own and try since some time to get this into EU wide law - but other European countries refuse. We actually have a very strict law concerning the happenings in WWII.



Not only do they refuse. There are still people who absolutely believe the Holocaust was made up.

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I talked to one of the sons of a survivor of the holocaust who went back to the middle east after the war. he says everyone he knows has long forgiven it.
I lost all sympathy I kinda had when he went on to brag for like 10 minutes about how the Jews were now the number one businessmen in the world. dude owns several casinos over in Israel. lucky TI.

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