It would be smarter for him to not upload anything at all on any online reader sites ever again.

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"Officially, this machine doesn't exist, you didn't get it from me,
and I don't know you. Make sure it doesn't leave the building."

That would be fine for me.

lol you wish that was really the only problem....it wasn't really just about matias067, but with mangafox's sister site mangahere and all the other online reader out there like goodmanga.net and mangareader

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it was bothering his sense of morals and killing his motivation to continue his work. plus, scanlations cost some serious dough. i don't see why this isn't anymore of a valid reason than "i have rl guys", although that is certainly true for EVERY scanlation team out there. scanlators aren't robots, guys, they have feelings and thoughts and doubts too. if you would have acted differently, good for you, maybe you have thick enough skin to start your own team.

i'm sad to see scanlators close down, but in all honesty, i don't blame them. leechers are a burden and it seems scanlations have long ago ceased to be "by the fans, for the fans".

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a scanlator can quit when they want, for WHATEVER reason they want, whether it be an emotional reason or a practical reason. period.

i don't think they need the approval or judgement of any leecher, ever. in fact, leecher entitlement is a huge reason scanlators quit.

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lol. We are talking about you who have the info on releases and ALSO have the whitelist power. I don't see why you should include Kaldr's name here. Its you who upload those, KNOWING your upload will get through without being hold at the BackEnd, and lot of those releases have waiting period.

True, yet there's something in his words that just gnaws away at my gut. They're not sincere, but rather condescending. They're selfish words, that's what they are.
Maybe it's just the way he is, but hey, as long as I can write, I'll criticize (and condemn, when appropriate) the hell out of his writing and the selfish character he portrays with it.

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1. why am I the target here?
Because you upload stuff at Mangafox, ignoring the waiting period.

2. I am now gonna contact 'manga.dreamer' the main admin of Mangafox and request her to take down as a SuperModerator, the user named "MangaFox"
lolwhut, shifting blame to others ?

3. You cloud also blame 'Kaldr' (http://forums.mangafox.com/member.php?u=599724) a QC staff of Mangafox. I know that he follows rules regarding upload delays, but sometimes there are other MF members uploading releases and sometimes he can't organize it all and some of the submitupload gets uploaded even if the delay rule (hour/day) is not yet done.
We're talking about you.

4. [b]I'm sorry Kaldr for involving you, i'm not mad at you]/b], and I know it's very hard being a single QC on MF. The user 'MangaFox' is the culprit.
You're not mad at him ? You really are a funny guy.

5. Just to repeat, i'm NOT on mangafox's side
Err, what ? Says the person who have been uploading stuff lots, trying to apply for the QC team there, and been posting comment on your upload such as "please accept my upload, I was first".

Stop derailing the topic.

Stop whining. I keep reading "leecher/s", "leecher entitlement" etc. from scanlators, and it just annoys me. They are readers, and you obviously want them to read the stuff you release.
And some blame "leechers" for their retirement. Nobody forced you to do this, so it's your choice to quit even if you just got bored or tired of it. But don't blame it on others.

You're throwing others under the bus to divert the blame that is a very transparent tactic. Nice try.

i doubt they were trying to be condescending at all. maybe selfish, but what's wrong with deciding to stop a voluntary service when it no longer pleases you to do so/goes against your morals? others may disagree with his reasoning and think it's flawed, but if he himself feels it's wrong i don't think he has to explain himself to the community further than that.

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lol You're the one who still uploaded the releases, doesn't matter if you weren't the one who approved it. I can't believe you're blaming others for it and trying to rid yourself of any blame.

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♪MONSTARR~ will eat all your cookies and steal your bishies~♪ Φ_Φ

Way to go for making yourself look worse! Congratulations~

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the problem is not a matter of who gets the chapters and what gets shared. the problem is the sense that many leechers take scanlators for granted and expect them to always be around, giving up all of their time in order for the chapter to come out when they want it to. once upon a time scanlators did this as a volunteer service for their friends who loved a series as much as they did. these days are long gone and so is the spirit in which scanlation started in the first place. it's no wonder so many who start quit early and the old ones who have stayed behind are churning to a halt.

i rarely see a team go out and flat out point fingers at their readers proclaiming that it's their fault. just because they've become exasperated with the system and seeing their hard work go unappreciated and destroyed, they become whiny bitches. i guess teams don't have feelings anyways and are expected to just keep churning chapters out like robots. can't win in an environment like that, so yes, many are making that choice to quit. it's no longer fun. it's no longer worth the money and time and dedication put in. is it the leechers fault? not necessarily. perhaps one could say it's the team's fault in the first place for believing that their work would be valued and appreciated with those they shared it with.

excuse me for sounding bitter, im not even a scanlator but after being affiliated with so many that fell, it's upsetting to see others who don't fully understand the situation nor the feelings of the teams shit on their feelings and accuse them of being "whiny".

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Nah, there's a big difference between "readers" and "leechers". Leechers contribute absolutely nothing to the community, so they have no moral right to criticize any scanlator for anything, be it their work or their decision to quit. And if the leecher attitude (e.g. ingratitude) is what caused a scanlator to quit, why would you demand that he doesn't blame it on the leechers? Yes, it's his choice. But the leechers caused him to make that choice. What's so complicated about this?

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