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Post #329826 - Reply to (#329582) by BaeSooky
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12:09 am, Oct 23 2009
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Quote from lame2846
I'm just want the series show them got release it doesn't even have to group or download link

Erm, you can already kinda do that...
lambchopsil already said releases for those groups won't be added, but there is a way to know if a series is completely scanlated. Just scroll down to the 'Completely Scanlated' field and if there's a yes, it means it is scanlated and most likely had a release already.

From there it is up to you to know where to find the manga and download it. O_O

I mean, just because the release stats was deleted it doesn't mean the actual series info-page was deleted itself, you know... none


but then what about the manga that never completely scanlated the manga there are group that only scanlated 4 or 5 volume

the information about Completely Scanlated? only have the answer yes or no

maybe we could change that a bit?

i don't want other people to miss a good series just because they didn't know the release


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No

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12:13 am, Oct 24 2009
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Once again no reason...

Very well that will be all. No point in trying when people don't give shit

I guess I can't help change anything after all

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12:39 am, Oct 24 2009
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Okay, just because your not getting the answer you want, does not mean they don't care. It just means that they don't want to tell you their reasoning on that policy, which means that they have a reason for not telling you.

Also, with that kind of attitude, they might never want to divulge the information, which leads me to my next point.

The way you ask for things matters a lot. Next time--anywhere it doesn't have to be here--try to rephrase your requests in a way that displays it in a positive manner along with your justification (your reasoning for what you want).


Edit: You should also be prepared for whatever the response is...

Last edited by Toto at 3:57 am, Oct 24 2009

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Post #330306 - Reply to (#330062) by Toto
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12:48 am, Oct 25 2009
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Okay, just because your not getting the answer you want, does not mean they don't care. It just means that they don't want to tell you their reasoning on that policy, which means that they have a reason for not telling you.

Also, with that kind of attitude, they might never want to divulge the information, which leads me to my next point.

The way you ask for things matters a lot. Next time--anywhere it doesn't have to be here--try to rephrase your requests in a way that displays it in a positive manner along with your justification (your reasoning for what you want).


Edit: You should also be prepared for whatever the response is...


Since you are some what wrong

They don't shit is one of their reason for not answer me.

What wrong with my attitude? I'm not asking the nicest possible way that because it just not way i do thing, at least I'm not asking like a jackass or anything. If my English have problem well that only because it my second language.

All I'm do is asking simple question they should have just give me simple answer(one word is not). There no need me for me to do anything else. I'm trying to make this site better and more information for other people and myself.

Also their response is freaking one word like last time(read back).I don't mind a short answer but they give quick one word prove they don't really care. If they can't tell me the reason then they should have just type that.




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1:29 am, Oct 25 2009
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You're missing the point, sir.

When you start using profanity once you think your not getting your way, people tend to not listen to what you have to say. This is the attitude I am referring to. Second, whatever your proficiency in this language is good enough as long as you try your best to communicate in a civil manner, which you were doing well in until recently.

Now, just because they answer with one word, again, does not mean that they don't care... it tends to mean that they are getting exasperated, which is the opposite of not caring.


Also, I understand your trying to help, but you need to find a better way of expressing yourself.... because how your doing it now will get nothing done.


Check that: I does tend to get things done; you just might not like it.

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The main issue is that these scanning groups aren't scanlators. They just scan the English volume from a publisher, which takes less effort than translating, editing, proofreading, and QCing

There will be no indication about scanning groups, as we do not allow those. If it's a legit scanlator, we allow that, but no more scanning groups. End of issue

And I keep giving a one word answer of "No" because I already explained it in other posts, yet you continue to not understand

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Post #330541 - Reply to (#330311) by Toto
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Quote from Toto
You're missing the point, sir.

When you start using profanity once you think your not getting your way, people tend to not listen to what you have to say. This is the attitude I am referring to. Second, whatever your proficiency in this language is good enough as long as you try your best to communicate in a civil manner, which you were doing well in until recently.

Now, just because they answer with one word, again, does not mean that they don't care... it tends to mean that they are getting exasperated, which is the opposite of not caring.


Also, I understand your trying to help, but you need to find a better way of expressing yourself.... because how your doing it now will get nothing done.


Check that: I does tend to get things done; you just might not like it.


Again some what wrong

you are also missing the point. You were talking about my attitude of asking question in previous post. In which according to you was fine, yet look at what attitude they give me. Gotta remember that quote "give respect get respect"

me cursing was only because I'm trying to wrap thing up with few sentence showing what kind of service i been getting.


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The main issue is that these scanning groups aren't scanlators. They just scan the English volume from a publisher, which takes less effort than translating, editing, proofreading, and QCing

There will be no indication about scanning groups, as we do not allow those. If it's a legit scanlator, we allow that, but no more scanning groups. End of issue

And I keep giving a one word answer of "No" because I already explained it in other posts, yet you continue to not understand


Fine this would have end much faster with you said: There is no way to change anything about this scanning group then state the reason.

but for the record you never did i check. you keep stating: no we do not allow this type of group and the answer no.

The whole time I'm trying to do is think of way to get around or change the system.

Lastly calling these scanning group not a scalantor is big insult to them and make me mad. They like other scanlator trying to help fellow fan by provide manga. Their way may not be like other scanlation group but they do what they can and using their own way to help fellow fan to a good series they like so they may help buy the series too. Their way maybe illegal by stealing from publisher but they never state they did translate or editing it they always give them the credit.

They always do suggesting you buy the manga which is a reason they keep it a low quality for people to buy better one. So don't think they are bad people trying to help improve piracy even through it kind did in a way but it never their intention. They are try to help fellow fan who have no money the way they can. So saying they are not scanlator make me so mad.

I'm hope this changes someone opinion. This take me nearly an hour to write; it was a bit hard to express my opinion.



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Lastly calling these scanning group not a scalantor is big insult to them and make me mad. They like other scanlator trying to help fellow fan by provide manga.

No, they are not. You are offending the scanlators groups who have a big trouble buying an imported manga, carefully dismounting the whole thing, scanning, translating, cleaning, typesetting, proof reading before release. The scanning groups buy LICENSED manga, already ready to go and scan in the worst quality possible without dismount the book because they don't want to ruin what they purchased. It's definitely not the same and as I far I understand, it's an illegal operation, it's piracy of copyrighted content.
Scanning groups feed readers who don't want to buy the manga and help the mangaka to keep working.
They definitely are not the same as scanlators.
I think MU decision about scanners are the most correct decision.

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10:25 am, Oct 26 2009
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To keep it fair, scanlations are also illegal, not just the scanning of an English volume

lame2846, you just don't appear to understand our reason, which is why you keep saying we never stated a reason

And you know what? I'm just gonna lock this, as there's no point arguing any further. If you can't accept our reason, too bad. You changed nothing here.

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