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Post #487353 - Reply to (#487328) by Nisseman
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CXC Banchou
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7:31 am, Aug 5 2011
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Quote from Nisseman
The dont remove credits on mf and its free. So why all this crying? Do you really need people to tell you how they love you to make you feel better?


If you knew how to read, you'd know that the bigger picture is that MF pretends to be cooperative and their alter ego MangaHere goes around and does the complete opposite and doesn't respect anyone. They're the same identity! This is just pure hypocrisy. Whether MangaFox is good or not is daunted by the fact that they're just putting on a facade and are lying to everyone.

Look at it this way, it's like the President saying that troops are leaving Iraq yet in the shadows sending troops to do operations in secret without telling anyone, going against their previously stated policy to do what they wouldn't be allowed to do publicly.

Last edited by [Cross] at 7:50 am, Aug 5 2011

Post #487354 - Reply to (#487341) by Zathuria
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This is totally an eye-opener to those who usually don't care about what happens "behind the scenes" because sometimes people are like "What do I care? I just wanna read mah manga. =P" and they don't realize what happens in the sites, the scanlators and so on.


Amen! I can't stand fans who all they care about is weather or not they can read manga. They don't give a shit about the work that goes into it or where they read. I've checked out some of the forums on MF about the series I do. It's all "Whens the next chapterrr out!1 I cant waaaaait!!1! waaaaah" and then they come about and demand we work faster. Between the fans and reader sites like this, It's a surprised more groups haven't just given up already. It's getting to the point where it isn't worth it anymore.

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7:44 am, Aug 5 2011
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Well...I won't be participating in all these heated discussions because I'm not a scanlator -- just a "pathetic, wretched leecher who doesn't deserve to read manga" bigrazz

As long as Mangafox exists, plenty of people will continue to use it (because it's convenient in so many ways and is sometimes the only way to read manga from scan groups that require you to become a member and have like...10 posts in their forums just to download a single release) I hadn't even heard of Mangahere before today

And yeah, I read most of my manga online too. Anyone would if it took their damn slow internet connection 1 hour to download a 30 MB file none

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AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA... that's known fact... but wow u did some good sniffing job *me hides all his stuff*. We can't prevent this from happening. but yea... I feel sorry whoever upload their stuff to mangafox... pffffft... like you can get the admin's money... OH god stop being dumb people... oh mangahere (or goodmanga.net) is ripping the online mangareader's manga so it's basically same shit as u found on mangafox.com and mangareader.net... They even still have the mangareader's watermark... what a cheap ass mangareader...

Post #487360 - Reply to (#487328) by Nisseman
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8:11 am, Aug 5 2011
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Quote from Nisseman
The dont remove credits on mf and its free. So why all this crying? Do you really need people to tell you how they love you to make you feel better?



Nope I don't need people telling me they love me to make me keep scanlating but it does help motivate you on long series, also mf cuts down on traffic and possible recruits that you could get to help your group keep going.

MF has made people lazy and unappreciative. You can't go one day without someone on manga fox saying why isn't something fully done even though its fully released in japan. Its made the reader ignorant to how stuff gets translated.

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8:16 am, Aug 5 2011
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Hmm... as a lazy leecher of the interweb I will protest! The lazy way.

I'll use ad block and no script on mangafox and their ilks when I read manga on their sites so the ads agency will refuse to pay them cause I'm not actually looking at their ads on the sites anyway. I'll also customize my ad block to block anything that I think are ads.

If everyone does that... do you think they will get any money?

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8:20 am, Aug 5 2011
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thanks for bringing this to my attention because i honestly had no clue how these manga reader sites worked. but in the end, it doesn't really matter. it's not going to change my reading habits. I'll go to mangafox to read there because I like the website. If mangafox doesn't have the manga I want to read and mangahere does, then I'll go there. In the end, everybody's kind of in the wrong. Scanlations are illegal from the start. Sure, you can try to justify it and say that it's because the manga isn't available in English that we need scanlations. But really, do you think that if the manga publishers actually got serious and started coming after the people who take their work, translate it, and put it on the Internet for free, that that kind of logic would stand up in court? At the end of the day, the only people who have a right to complain are the mangaka and the publishers who are losing revenue that they legitimately have the right to. I'm not saying that the practices of mangafox and mangahere are okay, but I don't agree with the people who say those websites should be taken down. That is only going to lessen the access people have to manga and make things more inconvenient.

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but I don't agree with the people who say those websites should be taken down. That is only going to lessen the access people have to manga and make things more inconvenient.


then, you didn't know what is mangaupdates function till now...?
Yeps it's illegal... and the scanlators doesn't claim the manga itself. it belongs to author and mangaka. and psssh as long as I know, the scanlators doesn't make any money (by explicit or implicit).
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Last edited by no_comxxx at 8:33 am, Aug 5 2011

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8:30 am, Aug 5 2011
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get adblock+ghostery, also direct releases from groups have wayy better image quality than some lame online reader.

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Well, I've never actually heard of mangahere before until now, and having a look at it, it's got the exactly same layout as mangafox, which doesn't seem to be a coincidence now we know their owner is the same.

Thing with mangafox is those situations where they "sometimes" follow the scanlators uploading rules are the moderators trying to make sure they happen. It's the Admins and Noez who are the assholes who override the rules we've laid down, especially with the whole mangastream problem. Noez just completely ignored the fact that they didn't want their scans on mangafox and uploaded them every week, and the mods were powerless against it and had to deal with all the rage. It's well known fact that Noez is a complete asshole. I'm not actually surprised about this.

Post #487367 - Reply to (#487312) by Nisseman
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8:52 am, Aug 5 2011
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You are just jelly because they earn more money than you by just having a webpage with ads where lotad of people go.
Im ok with mangafox because i mostly dont have to search 100 years trough a scanlator site for their older releases.
I see mf more like steam but for free manga.


lemme ask you, why you bother to come in here? ur manga reader is there bigrazz
this site has every info... oh, can't be helped it, you are just Lazy ass. Leecher thinking is always same...
And I agree the online mangareader fucntion to be an old archiver. but completely ignoring scanlator's demand, confused?

Last edited by no_comxxx at 9:22 am, Aug 5 2011

Post #487369
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9:05 am, Aug 5 2011
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Dear whiny brats with a misguided sense of entitlement... err, that was a freudian slip. I mean, dear manga readers:

I know that mangafox is convenient for you, and that's why you're perfectly fine with them cynically taking advantage of numerous volunteers working for free. After all, they're not taking advantage of you, are they? Otherwise you'd be screaming bloody murder here like the whiny brats... I mean, valued manga readers that you are. But you know, there is another online reader that does not take advantage of scanlators. It's http://www.batoto.com/ Why don't you switch to that one for your manga reading needs?

If you are so sociopathic that you can't make this tiny change for the sake of preserving this community, then at least do it for your own selfish reasons. Because if things don't change, many scanlators will start quitting (one translator has already quit over Mangafox just recently, and left a dozen series hanging) because the purpose of scanlation is not to maintain Jacky Yung's lifestyle. You're gonna whine, but no one will listen to you. Or you will have to jump through ever more hoops to get your manga and deal with ever more watermarks. You already whine about that, but no one listens to you.

Of course, most manga fans are normal well-adjusted individuals who support the scanlators. The above message is only for the few misguided souls in this topic.

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9:08 am, Aug 5 2011
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WOOT... FINALLY SOME ENLIGHTMENT!!!!!!!
I only respect to those who upload something for mf, but not the admins that keep enjoying the flow of money that the site made. seriously I feel sorry for the mods there that have to take all the blames while the admin is chikened or completely ignored all of this shit?

Last edited by no_comxxx at 9:19 am, Aug 5 2011

Post #487372
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9:10 am, Aug 5 2011
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Wow... this is... a very shocking news....
cmertb , you use a very attractive title for your topic biggrin
I admit that I use Mangafox if I cant find release that I looking for in scanlator site :/
and actually, I never hear bout Mangahere before this....
but if it's as bad as what everybody say in this thread, then it's a big scandal in manga-scanlation world....



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Post #487373 - Reply to (#487363) by no_comxxx
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9:26 am, Aug 5 2011
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but I don't agree with the people who say those websites should be taken down. That is only going to lessen the access people have to manga and make things more inconvenient.


then, you didn't know what is mangaupdates function till now...?
Yeps it's illegal... and the scanlators doesn't claim the manga itself. it belongs to author and mangaka. and psssh as long as I know, the scanlators doesn't make any money (by explicit or implicit).
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I knew about the scanlations being illegal, I didn't know about mangafox and mangahere making profits off of hosting scanlations. Nor that they weren't being fair to the scanlators

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there is another online reader that does not take advantage of scanlators. It's http://www.batoto.com/ Why don't you switch to that one for your manga reading needs?


Thanks for informing me of this site, but I go where the manga is. If mangafox has a manga that batoto doesn't have then I'd rather read the manga at mangafox than just not read it.

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