Nearly everything is made in China and from what I can see OtakuShop is a completely diffent company. It is not their OtakuShop. It is just a company making anime/manga goods and attracting customers by putting ads in sites like mangafox, mangahere, facebook, otakuzone and animehere because those are places where alot of anime/manga fans hang out. They are not making money off manga.



It wasn't like that a year or two ago. They turned to the legal route after getting alot of things. But they are putting too much ads in the videos compared to when they were still illegal.



I think you need to do your research from what I seen most credit pages are intact in mangafox. Also it clearly has name of the group that scanlated the manga chapterwise in mangafox. But in mangahere it is the case exactly how you described it.



They probably closed that down probably becase they had issues with some scanlator groups. Alot were reasonable with 1-3 days delay. There were some that wanted from 1 week to 1 month delay which I seen for myself. There were kind of like fights in the forums about the 1 week to 1 month delays between those groups and mangafox mods. Even during the time when mangafox had the abide by censor issues they had to remove some manga from the site and there were fights with the scanlators why they removed this manga but not that manga.

Can we stop talking about MangaFox already? Thank you very much.

guys let me tell you something
these guys (who think mf is in the right) are probably not trolls
they are people who are very stubborn and stick with their initial thought and will start talking out of their ass to convince themselves that they are correct

I have a friend who is very similar to them
and while it is hard to talk to him sometimes (even harder to play league of legends with him cause it's always my fault when he dies)
I have found out the best way to get him to shut up is to simply ignore him or to tell him that his logic is flawed and then drop the subject (he actually gets annoyed when i tell him that and stop talking about it)

You can not convince them of anything so it is better to not even try

I am not one of those people. If you look closely at what I pointed out and look at mangafox you will notice alot of what I mentioned are right. It is also well known fact alot of people have grudges against mangafox from past expiriences and trying to talk other people out of going to mangafox. Some have grudge becuse thet are making a rumored $3000 a day from ads. Do you have any idea how much it costs to maintain the site especially with more than a million vistors. I don't think what they are earning from the ads in general is wrong. The ads they have are the type of ads that the more popular the site is the more they get paid. They have not in anyway blocked you from accesing manga because you didnt click or watch the ad or block you because you didn't sign up for a pay subscription. They are 100% free. What they earn from ads from the site that made accessing manga easier is their business not ours.

Why the rush to absolve yourself, then?

And for the last time why keep dragging MangaFox into this? We can discuss Dragon&Fly without involving their parent company and it still wouldn't change the fact that - lemme put this mildly - they're not a good scanlation group.

Most people don't care as long as the translation and quality of the scans are decent. Its not a video to be so concerned about quality. If you want bad watch an xvid encode. Most of the xvid encodes now adays are below decent .

When in doubt, I read the scanlation with the best grammar.

When both scanlations have grammar that is on par with each other, I get the release from the group with the better editor.

When both raws are on par or the same and the editors have the same skill, I get it from the first group to release the series (as in, the first group I read the series from).

I can deal with watermarks, I can deal with shitty raws, I can deal with shitty cleaning jobs, and I can deal with crap typesetting. What I can't deal with is horrible grammar.

Luckily, most of the groups who have an excellent command of the English language also have an excellent command of photoshop.

I could go even further and rant about my beliefs in regards to scanlation teams, respecting their wishes, etc, etc...but that's too much work. It honestly just boils down to everything I said above.

No, they care about speed.



Quoted for truth.

Let me cite an instance, then, concerning Dragon&Fly. For those who haven't noticed, they've recently added Code: Breaker to their list of series. As release mod I checked the contents of their first ever release of it particularly the first and the last page. Here was what I saw on the last page.



I know well enough that you're supposed to be loony, but what the eff were you trying to say, Heike-senpai?!

And yes, you weren't even told that was the last page of the chapter. I had to check my archives to see if the chapter length was consistent with previous releases.

I'm glad you liked my watermark.

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If yours was the one that covered the whole page, (and not the small, completely reasonable one before it) then honestly, yes, for me, personally, that hit the point where I couldn't read it anymore. Like people keep saying, it is the choice of the scanlator, and since I'm not the one doing the work I have no say in this. So I made a choice in turn, and my choice was to stop reading.

Small watermarks don't serve any purpose
There's a clean version released anyway, so no reason for you to be whining.

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This group looks very suspicious indeed. When I visit their website http://dragonflyscans.org/, I can't seem to find any information about their translators, proofreaders, cleaners, editors, etc. They don't even have a forum where fans can discuss manga. It's as if they want to remain anonymous as much as possible. They probably don't want readers to find out they're affiliated with MF and Noez.
But when I visit legit scanlation group sites such as Evil Flowers (evilflowers.com) and Death Toll (http://www.deathtollscans.com/), I can interact with the team scanlating those manga and discuss manga on their forums.

I can't believe the foolish tangents in this thread. all of you are bickering over something totally off topic. all the person wanted was an answer and you give them all these off topic arguments on what you believe is right. if you all really wanted to justify what is right, instead of thinking of scanlators as the one creating the submissions, why don't you think about our poor mangakas who get little money because most of their hard work and sweat turned into a beautiful form of art gets ripped out and posted on the Internet for all to see for free since most people won't buy the manga because all they have to do is go online and they have instant access. I'm not saying I have anything against online manga since I actually support the artist by buying their series if I loved it, but really many scanlating groups only give credit to the artist in a small tiny corner if at all. and the watermarks? a serious offense by censoring the artist's original art when put into a ridiculously huge font across the page. what if you created something over a long period of time and then someone just changed tiny details of it and PASTED THEIR NAME all over it? not too good isn't it?