In the practice of fair scanlations all around, we (MangaUpdates) do not endorse, permit, allow, etc any sort of "claiming" series as projects from any individuals or scanlation groups.
This means please don't put a message "Future project of ____ group" on a series info page or a download message on a release to the effect of "We of ____ group plan to do _____ series" or anything similar to that effect.
This has always been our policy, and we have previously warned offending individuals. Please comply with our wishes.
Offenders will be warned and then punished on second offense
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Stating an Unspoken Rule - No "Claiming" Projects
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Post #531792
8:41 pm, Oct 12 2008
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The red letters are Very eye catching
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3:57 am, Oct 13 2008
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Now if only the letters spelled out "on" instead of "one."
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Haha, people are getting possessive.
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That makes perfect sense.
#1 The series belongs to the mangaka and the publishers NOT anyone else, any "claiming" is just plain wrong, and against licensing laws.
#2 Why should a person have to wait six months to see a fan made scanlation because someone "claimed" it yet has other projects to tend to first. Especially when this prevents someone else doing the project in the mean time.
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#1 The series belongs to the mangaka and the publishers NOT anyone else, any "claiming" is just plain wrong, and against licensing laws.
#2 Why should a person have to wait six months to see a fan made scanlation because someone "claimed" it yet has other projects to tend to first. Especially when this prevents someone else doing the project in the mean time.
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Lamb, while I basically agree with you on "claiming" as in "It's mine! Mine! MINE!" is wrong, I don't see any harm in announcing that a group "plans" to do a project as in your examples.
It actually prevents that two groups put effort into a series at the same time unnecessary. When I see that a (reliable) group is planning to do this (and e.g. just waiting on the ordered volumes), than I won't bother with this project from the start. Saves resources such as money and time.
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It actually prevents that two groups put effort into a series at the same time unnecessary. When I see that a (reliable) group is planning to do this (and e.g. just waiting on the ordered volumes), than I won't bother with this project from the start. Saves resources such as money and time.
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Obviously, future projects will always be one of those things that some groups put up in hopes of making sure that no one else does them, but they have no place in a public information site. If anything, this should be the last place that you'll find any propaganda for this or that project or group. Putting up claims or the like is basically abusing the system that's in place here.
Not to say that claiming is wrong... it's something that I personally don't really do, but it's pretty obvious that it would cut down on multiple groups starting the same project at the same time. At least in an ideal world.
Not to say that claiming is wrong... it's something that I personally don't really do, but it's pretty obvious that it would cut down on multiple groups starting the same project at the same time. At least in an ideal world.
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7:59 am, Oct 13 2008
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You can put any number of Future Projects on your group's page if you want, just leave it off Mangaupdates, is my opinion. If you want to "claim" it on MU that badly, go ahead and release something - and not just chapter "1a" either.
For clarification, we have no problem with people announcing future projects.
When people start telling others not to do them because they are doing them or will do them, thats when we get annoyed.
A few times recently we've had issues with groups claiming projects as their own. It's an unfair practice to everyone. When multiple groups do a project, speed and quality generally increase, which benefits everyone.
This was mostly pointed out because recently we've noticed some larger groups trying to strong arm smaller groups out of projects.
So, if Group X doesn't want Group Y to do Project Z, maybe Group X should actually do Project Z in a timely manner, that way Group Y won't be bothered to consider Project Z as a potential project. As an example.
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When people start telling others not to do them because they are doing them or will do them, thats when we get annoyed.
A few times recently we've had issues with groups claiming projects as their own. It's an unfair practice to everyone. When multiple groups do a project, speed and quality generally increase, which benefits everyone.
This was mostly pointed out because recently we've noticed some larger groups trying to strong arm smaller groups out of projects.
So, if Group X doesn't want Group Y to do Project Z, maybe Group X should actually do Project Z in a timely manner, that way Group Y won't be bothered to consider Project Z as a potential project. As an example.
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I agree, SC. Though I can see what prompted the rule in the first place, it makes no sense to prevent groups from announcing their intent to start or continue a project. If necessary they can be restricted from making additional comments other than than to note they intend to do a series and in what timeframe, but that would be useful information for readers as well as scanlators.
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Hey, I typed this up past midnight...
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I CLAIM NARUTO AND BLEACH!!!
if only this would prevent everyone from working on them and move onto better projects ><
if only this would prevent everyone from working on them and move onto better projects ><
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Groups need to discuss that among themselves. We're no kindergarten playground for future-list-wars.
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It's ok. We all make mistakes. I was just pointing it out so you could fix it.
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