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Post #488408 - Reply to (#488407) by sakura8429
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wait till the mob comes


sorry?



well, there's a lot of survival camps nowdays talking about anarchy. it seems that whenever disaster or riot happens, anarchy is sure to follows.


anarchy is a fools dream and most rioters are fools.

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Post #488410 - Reply to (#488401) by revilenigma
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What's the point? In most first world countries they're easier to get illegally, people who want them we'll get them anyways.

First an example:

A kid is trying to climb on the table.
Mom: "Don't do that, you will get hurt if you fall".
Kid: "I won't fall, I will just get on the top and have fun there".

The mom realizes that the kid can't understand the danger climb represents because he lacks any experience in falling. She holds the kid, put him back on the floor and says
Mom "You are not allowed to climb anymore"

A good kid will understand that even tough he doesn't agree with his mother he should obey, an more unruly kid may even think about disobeying, but he knows there is a punishment for disobeying, so he won't.

The same thing happens with first worlders(kid). They think that using guns(climbing) will make them safer(he will get to the top and play there). The government(mom) knows that this is not true, that only hollywood heroes can fight robbers with a pistol. A normal person will be too afraid of the robber hurting him and the people he loves to use the gun, and even if he does and kills the robber, the robber friends will come after him later(he will fall).
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Once a robber invaded my uncle's house and tried to rob him, the robber got distracted trying to find jewels and my uncle shot the robber. The robber died, the police came, he was not condemned since he was "protecting his family". The next day he was inside his house when a 4 men started shouting in the street calling him out and promising he wouldn't get to see the next week. Two days later my uncle went to a city 800km away. Leaving excellent job and all the plans he had here. And he still lives there.


Here in Brazil guns are legal, but no one, aside criminals, has them. Here people know that the only thing a gun can do is kill, and killing will never do any good.

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Post #488411 - Reply to (#488384) by KaoriNite
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I'm not really sure where I fall on this issue but I just wanted to point out to the people who were saying that legalizing guns makes countries safer, the U.S. legalizes guns but it has one of the highest murder rates in the industrialized world. So the countries where guns aren't legalized are actually safer. Sure criminals in these countries will be able to illegally obtain guns, but not only people recognized as criminals misuse guns. The gunman in the Virginia Tech shooting was able to legally obtain a gun because he had no criminal record.


Highest murder rates, yes I agree. However, not with firearms:

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=43

74% of violent crimes were committed without a weapon, 80% of sexual assault/rape without a weapon, a shocking 49% of robberies without a weapon, and 77% of Simple/aggravated assault without a weapon. 24% of robberies were committed with a firearm, firearms for everything else didn't even make it to 10%.

There will always be some lunatic that just loses it and goes off, but why should be punish the honorable citizens? This is would be in line of saying the government will take away everyone's computer because a few sick bastards are downloading child pornography.

Firearms isn't the problem; its people without proper eduction and morals that is the problem.

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wanders into topic again.

People starving in africa are because the people with the guns don't want them to eat.

its a WAR. Its like a siege, except instead of hiding in castles, they are hiding in jungle villages, men with guns come, they hide in the jungle. so the men take the food and leave them to starve.

its not related to this topic.

this topic is on the cost of illegal firearms. the price would be raised 2-10 times base price. Depending on demand for the firearm.

Post #488427 - Reply to (#488398) by westsiders2
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don't make wild accusation, most starving people in Africa are not the one getting or using the guns.
and the ones with the guns tend to control mines or precious metals they can sell.

Rich child soldiers are rich, yes? I mean, they are ready to kill because
they got bored of football, amirite?
Criminals work in syndicates. They don't get their guns with
their allowance. Warlords run the business and the minions shoot stuff.




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Illegal weapons are cheap.
People in Africa don't have enough cash to feed themselves, but there's always
enough cash to get weapons. Criminals are indeed superheroes since they've got
cheats enable IRL.


think so? ever bought one?
yea, heard of them, pretty sad, y ur bringing them up tho?
if in your opinion thats all what it takes to be a superhero then that's also sad



And no, chopstick, aside from your apparent trolling and circlejerking,
I haven't bought an illegal gun. That doesn't mean someone
hasn't tried to sell me them. I live next to Russia.

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Post #488430 - Reply to (#488411) by JakeOrion
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There will always be some lunatic that just loses it and goes off, but why should be punish the honorable citizens? This is would be in line of saying the government will take away everyone's computer because a few sick bastards are downloading child pornography.

It would not be in line with it at all. The sick bastards downloading child porn aren't the ones harming the child, the ones making said child porn are. And they could cause just as much harm to the kid without computers to share what they're doing.
Aside from that, computers are used in almost every aspect of people's lives, so outlawing them wouldn't be practical

For most average citizens in a developed country, a gun is of no use at all. Except for causing any conflict they get into to escalate quickly and fatally(for them or the other person).

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Post #488431 - Reply to (#488430) by mattai
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It would not be in line with it at all. The sick bastards downloading child porn aren't the ones harming the child, the ones making said child porn are. .


Fuck you. in the 1800s-1950s at least people persecuted the gays like that, was Oscar Wilde a sick bastard?

They said the same shit. people wrote poems and crap. You are a horrible person.

yes rape of children is wrong.

Rape is wrong.

but to assume every child is a victim of rape, is to assume a child cannot LOVE.

and thats just absurd.

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It would not be in line with it at all. The sick bastards downloading child porn aren't the ones harming the child, the ones making said child porn are. .


Fuck you. in the 1800s-1950s at least people persecuted the gays like that, was Oscar Wilde a sick bastard?

They said the same shit. people wrote poems and crap. You are a horrible person.

yes rape of children is wrong.

Rape is wrong.

but to assume every child is a victim of rape, is to assume a child cannot LOVE.

and thats just absurd.

Are you high?

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It would not be in line with it at all. The sick bastards downloading child porn aren't the ones harming the child, the ones making said child porn are. .


Fuck you. in the 1800s-1950s at least people persecuted the gays like that, was Oscar Wilde a sick bastard?

They said the same shit. people wrote poems and crap. You are a horrible person.

yes rape of children is wrong.

Rape is wrong.

but to assume every child is a victim of rape, is to assume a child cannot LOVE.

and thats just absurd.

Are you high?

First thing I see clicking on this post... A little off topic...

Anyway, no I do not thing having fire arms should be legal, some people are much too hot headed and snap way too easily. I'm totally okay with people hunting but even that should be controlled (because of the people who are causing problems) Maybe come up with a rental or tracking system to control the use and distribution of guns.

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Watch the language, you guys

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guns dont kill people, people kill people.
guns should be legalized because if they werent only the bad guys would have guns and could shoot anyone without him being taken down fast if there is a civilian with a gun to kill him.

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I live in Texas, everyone and their mom's got a gun. People don't really run around shooting each other so i don't see what's wrong with legalizing guns. There aren't any home invasions (robbing house while you are home) here since 70% chance you will get your ass shot in the process.

Post #488447 - Reply to (#488444) by k2djspike
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I live in Texas, everyone and their mom's got a gun. People don't really run around shooting each other so i don't see what's wrong with legalizing guns. There aren't any home invasions (robbing house while you are home) here since 70% chance you will get your ass shot in the process.


i know what you mean i live in Texas and my house hasnt been actually robbed but like theres been trespassers that enter the property and steal things but you never know if one day they might break in. I dont even want to think about the tought of not having a gun.

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guns should be illegal mainly because over 2000 people died because of accidental gun use in the past 5 years, also why would you need a gun lets face it there is a better chance of you killing a member of your family then saving the masses from a lunatic.
and lastly the second amendment should not be used to defend guns, the equivalent of guns now for people in the 18th century is rpgs grenades and even nukes so by the logic of the people who wrote the amendment it should be legal for me to keep and an rpg and a nuke in my basement

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Yes, but limited in availability.

Before you can get a license to buy/handle guns, you have to go through a psychological examination and have gone through classes to gain proficiency in use afterwards if you have been judged psychologically sound.




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