Oujo-sama and a bishie Butler
Big eyed shojo heroins
Generic bishies
'He's my Fiancee'
All the guys love her.



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Rape is imminent.

and this is the kind of girl who always gets the hot, playboy (who turns into a faithfull guy once he fell for her), talented male school idol who is possibly a famous model/actor/singer/athlete/alien/etc or at least a OMG-he-looks-so-good-without-his-nerd-glasses guy without trying to hard. and even if she does something really stupid or if he sees her with another guy he will still continue chasing her and then there will another hot looking guy appear who falls for her and mayne one or two more (some even get a male harem) and in the end she comes together with one of this hot guys at they live happy together forever since the word divorce doesn´t exist for shoujo heroines
yes i hate them (even though i may be also one of these girls minus the extra guys)

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somethimg that i saw a few times that i think its stupid is when the girl goes out with other guy,the reason was different time i saw it but it was really stupid

The plain girl and the very popular boy. she doesnt like him so he starts liking her I HATE IT...




So true lol especially the playboy just becomes faithful for her

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"In this game of love someone has to lose and it will not be me"

I'd say some the most notable cliches are:
- Big Brother/Little Sister Complex - This one can be sweet, but most of the time it ends up being borderline incest, which is just not right...
- Harems in general, although I do tend to like some, as long as it isn't a harem simply for fan service.
- Everyone Pairs Up... I don't mind it if its a causal type shoujo, but one that takes itself seriously, should really just stop.
- Cosplaying/Moe Characters. Seriously does everyone have to be a maid or cat? For anime, WTF on the animal noises... I mean seriously, how is that cute... they just seem brain dead.
- The characters who can't understand what love is. Not to say deeper love, but simply the what is this strange feelings... why am I am so warm... I hate those moments. Unless you are like 10 or younger, anyone should know what love in a simplistic sense is.
- Finally, the numerous times there are miscommunications and they never learn from their past. After the first couple times, the person just seems like an idiot.

Hmm, I think some cliches that I run into a lot in shoujo mangas are:

When the heroine gets herself into some bad situation where some borderline rapist guy is pinning her against a wall or something of the sort, and then her man has to come at just the right time and save her.

When the guys that end up with the heroine are extreme bishies, and every single girl in the school EXCEPT the heroine is in love with them (usually there are girls in the school making fanclubs for them). The guy doesn't like all of the attention though/hates the fangirls, so he's attracted to the heroine because she doesn't treat him like that. Usually, she treats him quite the opposite.

When the girl and the guy are thrown into some unrealistic situation that would never happen that requires them to act as a couple/kiss something like that, and they both secretly enjoy it but act like 'EWWW OMG THIS IS SO GROSS AND STUPID'.

When the guy and girl end up falling on top of each other because they bumped into each other in the hall, and then they're all awkward and telling the other one to get off them.

Now, I'm not dissing mangas that have these cliches. I read plenty of them, and still enjoy them. I'm just saying I've seen them a lot.

the cold guy who picks up an cat/puppy in the rain and the main protagonist sees it and falls in love with him.
the reason why i hate it is the following: i have never seen the real version. i´ve seen it one time in a yaoi manga and three times parodied (one time in the ouran high school host club anime, one time in sket dance and one time in b gata h kei). it is often mentioned in mangas that it indeed is sa shoujo manga clichée but i´m annoyed that i never saw the real thing

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I could be wrong and forgetful. The girl friend of the main char in Lovely Complex fell in love with her boyfriend because of that. The guy have a soft side with the kitty in the rain or wait is it puppy? or is it never happen at all. Sorry about that.

In to the discussion. I love cliche, still the main reason i still read shoujo these days because of that cliches and to amuse my self, but some cliche is taken too far to the point is annoying.

Love triangle where the girl can't choose between 2 guys: I hate it very much. It is so annoying. I read Parfait Tic before(and no more love triangle for me after that) and after 7 vols, she still can't effin decide which of the 2 boys she really likes. What is wrong with you? I really can't retaliate this maybe because i have a straight courtship with my husband. How can you love 2 guys at the same time? huh? how greedy are you? unless you need them for different purposes but still evil and maybe i can buy it reading it in some shounen/seinen for plot device. But not with "i can't decide shit"

Love triangle where there is another crazy girl who makes the main girl life difficult, bully her etc etc without retaliation: There is always this 1 beautiful girl(and she will always beautiful) who will be the nemesis in the story. Either she was from the main guy's past or present or groupie, but it is so annoying if every single damn shoujo that you read have those. Can't think of example atm.

The guy who bullies the main girl fall in love in only 1 chapter:There is a reason why i hate Hot Gimmick. I just hate the guy guts. I don't know if it is connected. And i think Kyo Koi wo Hajime something also kinda like that. Beauty Research Centre?

The girls is so oblivious with the guy feelings, even though it clearly shown, and everybody knows it except her, and all the while she thinks of him as her enemy: Yup you guys know what i am talking about. Special A.

The girl who went all blushy and weak, can't retaliate from the guy advance, something like push you against the wall with 1 hand or both hand surround her *insert any shoujo here* The reason i hate it maybe because i never got to see it in real life. K i got it, it just in fantasy what is wrong with that. The wrong is when it happen and suddenly the girl went doki doki because of that.

Story end with the couple having sex: ok sure we know you guys love each other and all that, but ending it with different situation would be better. And it also encourages young people out there to be reckless imho. ie: Yuu Watase manga. and some Tanemura's works i think.

Any bimbo main char as a girl: all one shot usually have that.

Not so cliche:
Goody two shoes girl. Sweet, lovely, motherly, sisterly, friendly, always do good deeds, and always optimistic in life: Yes i hate Furuba.

Reverse Harem: Any otome game turn manga out there. And some original such as Love in the Mask.

Indecisive love partner/interest: Bokura ga Ita, how stupid can you be? oh And Inuyasha also fall in this category.

Manga that should had ended long time ago but still in serializing due to popularity: Kaichou Wa Maid Sama and maybe Faster than a Kiss also Vampire Knight (could be wrong because i didn't read too far beyond a couple of chapters) Maybe Ouran but it had ended right?

The love interest is a robot: i can accept if it is non human like vampire, demon, alien, youkai. But robot is too much, especially computer science is my major.

And many more, i think i wrote too much. It just a rant ops.
And i didn't finished all the titles mentioned above. Except lovely complex... i think.

Actually Risa's friend made up that story as a joke. I think she just met her boyfriend at school in a normal way. If you want to see a "real" non-parody version see Tenshi Nanka ja Nai.

As for cliches I don't like, nothing comes to mind right now. That's how tired I am at the moment. I know there are some that bother me so I'll get back to this later when I'm in a ranting mood.

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Well, there's one thing that I don't like, and I believe this may have been posted earlier. It's the fact that the protagonist has it too easy! The girl will see him doing something or the other(not just save cats), and fall for him. Just because of that one thing. That can't compare to real life! Getting someone to like you is hard enough!

EDIT: Oh, and I hate perfect bishies too. Competition!

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I absolutely hate reverse harems, harems, fanclubs and all that shit. Does that happen in real life anywhere? I've never ever seen it. Another thing I hate is how the girls are always so weak, never putting up a fight and like Beav58 mentioned - the girls who don't even understand their own feelings. Are girls in Japan just completely different from the rest of the world or what?

Haha you know I thought I disliked this but once I got a full taste of the other side -- average girl gives up on the amazing guy she is passionately in love with and so she decides to go out with an average guy because he's nice to her and he is a sensible choice anyway -- I realized I didn't quite hate the cliche as much as I had thought.
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I also discovered I dislike a certain "power source" cliche in fantasy shoujo. All the supernatural guys want the heroine because she has some power -- but she cannot actually use it for offense or even proper defense. It's like she only carries the power around, she still needs to be fully protected. Yet her guy becomes empowered if she chooses him. Thus, she always needs a connection to some guy.

looool!! This reminds me of the girl discovers she has some fantastic power ability topic you created a few days ago with the highlighted quote:


Yeah... pretty sad damsel in distress...

Yes, I want to read something different now. There is a ton of shounen manga where the guy has a power that has nothing to do with how often he gets kissed, why can't there be the same kind of shoujo. XD (I'm reading Saver, though, it's good.)

Remembered another one that I wish didn't happen so often.
The interaction with the true love interest is always (I mean within the story) awkward and embarrassing. It even can be a way to recognize him if there is a triangle or a reverse harem. One guy annoys her, the other one fascinates her, and finally there is this guy who always makes her embarrassed or who always gets in awkward situations with her, voila.
I want more "they are enemies and rivals, and finally they realize they are in love" or "they are partners in crime, and suddenly they realize"...