I have never bought any manga, and I simply dont plan on doing it. There is no demand for it(i live in Texas) and I cant remember seeing it in any bookstore ive been in lately so oh well, I will continue doing what I have to do to get the free manga period, call it what you want pirating stealing whatever. Those money hungry bastards dont give a damn about us they just want whats in are pockets and they arent getting shit from me

well said.

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It's sad to see this going, since it was responsible for introducing me to several manga that may or may not come to the states at all.

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There's no reason for MangaUpdates to close down. They're not hosting anything illegal. Just information.
The manga industry doesn't have that kind of money to go and shut down all the scanlator groups anyways. So I don't think we need to worry about that right now.

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makes me wonder... wuts onemanga?

I can somewhat agree with what you are saying however i dont think its necessarily a "good thing" i mean im a great fan of glass mask i buy the series online from either ebay or amazon if i can find it! but it just so happens that the series isnt available in English so i go back to MF or OM to read it in english i buy the book to enjoy the pictures and being able to refer to the story online, but if i can't read/understand the book what is the use of wasting my money to bother buying it? sure if i still continue to buy it i will have lovely drawings to admire but im buying for a story thats enhanced with art! not just art on a sheet of paper.
also sites like OM and MF in my opinion arent really that bad sites because the thing is we are able to view ;but not download because in most cases if we have the money why not go out and buy your own copy right? its yours forever unless there is a mysterious flood or fire... then its gone

right on, this is a perfect example of what 1000s of people are gonna be like

It's really too bad to see this happening. Understandable, though. If there was an site that illegally offered books for free online viewing, Amazon and honest retailers would go out of business, after all.

Even though the international manga industry is expanding every day, the copyright infringement won't stop anytime soon, I think.

MU, on the other hand, will never be shut down as long as download links aren't posted. I only use it to stay on top of ongoing series or find new ones, anyway.

Oh geez once they shut down im screwed, also yeah people who don't support manga are the reason why this is happening, i'd do the same if i where the manga's publisher, if i love a book and can get a hold of it i'll buy it, i support the authors which give me manga, it's what everyone should do and maybe we wouldn't have issue, i mean its not truly in the interest of the publishers to waste time harassing sites till they close down, its a waste of time, and if it comes down to legalities money, i don't think even if it had come into the mainstream online manga reading it'd make that big of a deal, but the fact that people aren't buying manga anymore and they are losing money causes them to be forced to shut us down, i mean if they could this would be a great way to get more people to join the realm of manga and anime, and would get them more customers, but only if we actually would buy the manga and wouldn't be a bunch of straight up thieves.

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so...the authors are closing down the sites because they are loosing money, right?
To be quite frank, i don't think alot authors give a 2 S&*ts about what goes on in the other western coutries manga production...And why should they?
Here in the uk, the variety in manga in bookstores is next to none. The release consistancy is unreliable. The mangas are sparce and because of this there is no reason for a fan base to build much. Where do you go if thats the case? The net! Plus the scanalotor groups seem more reliable in translating mangas

I don't feel like they care or are trying to come up with a solution that works with the net. So if that is the case, I will not show sympathy to their plight in making money.
I don't mind paying for manga at all...its just that there isn't much worth paying for here. I bought death note and a couple of others but only big brands. I guess it kinda pisses me off to some extent to know that im not japanese (or read japanese )

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It isn't the authors who are looking into closing online manga sites.

Link about Shuho Sato

The above is to shine some light in prices of creating a manga and how little the creator actually get. And, if you follow this particular mangaka articles, you will find out he is now currently self publishing himself and doing a lot better.

Once again, it isn't the mangakas (authors of manga) but the publishing companies who are doing these actions.

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I'm sorry, but I'm just completely sick of this rhetoric. No offense intended to anyone, but there's a reason why people are paid to do what they do- generally (and this is from a generalized standpoint, there are always specific exceptions) people who are actually hired to do this work as there profession are going to be better at their job than volunteers, otherwise the volunteers would be the ones making money at it instead. This "scanlator translations are always better" line of argument is generally made by people who speak no Japanese, pretty much have next to know idea what they're talking about when it comes to the finer points of translation, and don't have any real evidence to back up the claim. I've had this argument before, and I can say that this fairly consistently turns out to be the case.

But, towards the topic at hand. They're just shutting down major lines of distribution. I don't think there's a reason to be freaked out about it. It would be too much of a hassle, from a legal standpoint, to individually track down every scanlation group and eradicate them from the web. If they shut down the mass channels, they'll discourage enough users for their purposes.

Now, as to the whole "manga isn't available in some parts of the world" bit. You can order stuff online, you know. It's not like it's impossible to pay for things legally. And authors should care- they tend to make a lot of money in foreign markets, sometimes more than they do in Japan.

And, seriously people, do you realize how juvenile the "I'm not going to buy any ever because they just want my money" stance sounds? I'm not sure I even want to get much further into this one... it's just so unreasonable and illogical.

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I was talking more about how often the releases are done...not the quality of translation.
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I did look, not alot of rare manga are translated by the "pros"...Just alot of mainstream stuff, if your telling to look to buy online



I'm not pointing my finger at anyone in particular just the people who are doing so. If their purposes are as i have stated then thats what i think to be honest.


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This really really sucks.
Everyone is going to have to learn how to use IRC. Bahahahaa.
Watch their stocks go down further when they have no idea which manga to license.

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Yeah, that's true. I just hope no publishers find this site cause if they do then they'll be able use it as one huge list of targets what with the links and all...

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