As a release mod its not a real problem with most releases but sometimes you'll get 50-100 old yaoi doujin releases all at once that you have to leave for admin. At worst sometimes you have to update a post earlier in the day to add a second chapter of a novel that was already released. I get the reason for the change its more just the amount of non manga releases are probably half of the updates (maybe more). I think that's more of an indicator of how the community has changed than a problem, updating the filtering system solves the problem without creating more issues for the people who read novels who I think have to be a large group of users.

I don't read doujinshi so I have no say in the matter, I guess. Keep them or exclude them, for me it's the same.

As for the novels,

-Could be added a new genre "Novel". It would help in the filtering;

-This is what I think would be an awesome feature: create a new section in the website, under "Releases", where the novel releases would be put. Something like "Novel Releases" would be nice, I think. It can't be that hard, right? Or can it? Then, there would be no need to remove any kind of novels, webnovels or not.

I'm saying this because there are web novels that are actually good and should not be left out, in my opinion... Stuff like Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou (Novel).

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I strongly disagree with simply dumping everything that you've found undesirable. The very fact that they're being listed here is due to there being no decent alternative.

This is a problem which is easily solved with user filters and categorisation, I implore you to do that instead.

Please don't remove novels or webnovels. If you do that, I guarantee there won't be any alternative for listings. Ahoupdates is so niche as it is that it will wither away in a year like all splinter-forums.

Just yesterday I was wondering if I should ask about a Novel or Text filter category.

Japanese Web Novels like Arifureta are the ones i feel most in danger with this change (It just recently got actual volumes/ official illustrations). A number of popular online Wuxia series have gotten their own Chinese web-manhwa and even a few print editions so they should be safe.
I do agree there should be some limits on doujin/webnovels because if its totally left open someone could start posting their Fanfics as OEL Novels, but series that are actually published (online or on paper) and are translated shouldn't be removed just because they've become almost as popular as manga.

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Simply removing web novels? That sounds like a terrible idea, to say the least. Please choose another method, like an option to filter regular manga, novels, and doujins. Novels are just as much a part of the experience as manga, more so in recent times and this will continue to grow. Filtering would be the answer, as far as I understand.

No comment on doujinshi as I don't read them.

Please don't take out the novels....

Please reconsider what to do with novels, filter them out of the release page for all I care but still allow them to be added to the db (I mainly keep up with series I follow through the "My Lists" page).

Please don't do this... Please... Removing web novels and other novels is the worst thing you can do.
And removing them based on whether it has a manga or not? That's just simply insane.

Novels need a new genre, or they need to be in a separate group altogether, but removing them is not a solution. Why do you need to restrict this site to what it was originally meant to be? Why can't you let it be what people need and want?

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The site is called MANGAupdates for a reason, so just delete ALL novels without exception.

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I have been using this website for a long time for manga but recently seeing lot of Novels on Series Stats I decided to give one of the them a shot. Now I am a fan of Light novel so I must thank this site for that.
I will be sad to see Light novel disappear from this website.

Please don't stop LN to be posted here. I am sure a filter will be the best solution for everyone.

Judging from the comments I don't think most of us are even on the same page, lol.

I agree with eliminating any grey area that may arise from multiple interpretations of what a "doujinshi" or a "novel" is. I'm guessing this is the essence of this move?

I don't really care about doujinshi, since that can be filtered out of both searches and releases, but I'd really approve of your doing something about the recent influx of badly-written web novels by god-only-knows-who authors that are cluttering up everyone's release lists.

But at the same time, I don't want releases of novels by actual proficient authors that don't have a manga version to be removed from the MU database or filtered together with the others. Examples would be Kino's Journey (Novel), Ukikumo Shinrei Kitan (Novel), and Utsuro no Hako to Zero no Maria (Novel), just off the top of my head. Isn't there some way to standardise novels just like the aforementioned masterlist for doujinshi? For example, get rid of web novels by no-name authors and leave the ones by authors who're actually published officially in their countries (eg: those whose works are/were in print instead of just on a website)?

As of now I don't think webtoons should be removed, but perhaps if they become a plague like their novel counterparts... For now, maybe just have "webtoon/webcomic" within brackets after the title like you currently do with novels?

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If you start to consider yourself a gatekeeper of taste, you should also block 93% of all manga out there...

Please don't suggest that. It will just lead to tears.

Hey, at least those manga are properly published.

The problem with webnovels is... Pretty much anyone can make one. I can start a blogspot site whenever I want, fill it with a narrative with some semblance of coherence and call it a "webnovel." Preferences aside, how do you distinguish my work from other webnovels?