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12:02 am, May 25 2019
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This week's poll was suggested by vivant. Did you notice that recently there's been an increase in length of some series titles, especially isekai? Two examples are I'm a Middle-Aged Man Who Got My Adventurer License Revoked, but I'm Enjoying a Carefree Lifestyle Because I Have an Adorable Daughter Now and No Matter How I Look at It, It's You Guys' Fault I'm Not Popular!. What's your opinion about that?

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http://www.mangaupdates.com/showtopic.php?tid=3903

Previous Poll Results:
Question: Do you recommend series to other people?
Choices:
Very rarely - votes: 882 (29.1%)
Never - votes: 312 (10.3%)
All the time! - votes: 488 (16.1%)
Only to people I personally know - votes: 1347 (44.5%)
There were 3029 total votes.
The poll ended: May 24th 2019

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Long titles are horrible, not so much because "they're difficult to say and remember," but because they're a clear testament to the author's laziness and lack of creativity, imo. How can someone who can't/doesn't want to come up with an appropriate and concise title have the dedication and skill necessary to write a good story? Of course, there are some series where the awful name is a deliberate choice (mostly romcoms, I've found), and I don't necessarily mean those. But isekai webnovels in particular are just ludicrous, though that speaks volumes to the quality of most of the works in that genre, I guess.

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Long title are horrible and that´s not just my fan opinion. It´s also my professional one due to existing side by side with the publishing industry. It´s not just trash LN names i can´t stand, those really deserve the unsellable titles though. Videogame with 2 subtitles under the brand name (LotR had severe problems with those) can go to hell and some of those Star Wars books/comics, ho boi.

There was a long enough manga or LN name that I couldn´t input into the MU name box btw. and I can´t see professional software taking a liking to these either. I actually know for a fact that those are equally allergic to this elliptical shit.

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5:16 am, May 25 2019
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I don't really care at this point, as long as the story is good mmm...

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...................man, what a trivial thing to be concerned with one way or the other.

Don't care.

Post #769397 - Reply to (#769390) by calstine
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11:37 am, May 25 2019
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This, so much this. I've noticed such a strong negative correlation between title length and manga quality that I've started using title length as the primary criteria for whether a series is worth checking out.

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From what I heard, apparently give series long ridiculous names is a popular thing over in Asia. Don't know why, though.

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3:42 pm, May 27 2019
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"Long titles are horrible and are hard to remember and say"
Honestly, this sounds like it could be the title of a light novel, lmao. 🤣

Where are all of my LonHorri fans at?
Or would it be LonRem?

In any case, that's my vote.

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Post #769439 - Reply to (#769390) by calstine
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Laziness and lack of creativity?? Have you heard of KochiKame? It has an absurdly long title for for comedic value. A lot of manga have modeled after that! Using isekai web novels as your basis for a vote on anything is just a testament to your own laziness.

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It's okay if there's a commonly used abbreviation

The examples given are good but I feel like KochiKame was the obvious choice of example. The comedy of the manga itself may not be for everyone, but imo, anyone who hates the title has no taste! It's a clever title!

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11:05 am, May 28 2019
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These titles are a sign that the Iseki meme has been done to death from so many iterations of this setting having been done, that the publishers are having to particularize the titles to distinguise their latest Iseki offerings from all that have gone before.

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The longest manga of all time isn´t the reason the poll exists, of that we can be certain. Not that I was ever crazy about its name. What you can´t tell me is that the pic below shows inviting box- or cover art. Go to hell EA, especially for the placement of the II:
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Now image all of this shit without the famous license... Long story short. There is a reason why all these LNs, Vita games or whatever are mostly ultra-niche and struggle to leave Japan. Marketing is a thing and it starts with the title and cover. Especially if the franchise is supposed to spawn spin-offs or (non-anime) adaptations. Good luck finding titles for those too!

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Post #769453 - Reply to (#769444) by cecropiamoth
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What do publishers have to do with it? The majority of current isekai manga are based on self-published web novels. It's how amateur authors catch the readers' attention. Does it work? Yes it does.

As for the poll itself, don't really understand the point of whining about title length. It's just another gimmick and fad, which will eventually go away to be replaced by something else.

In short, "don't care".

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There is a reason why all these LNs, Vita games or whatever are mostly ultra-niche and struggle to leave Japan.

Because the stories are primarily made with a Japanese audience in mind? Also, the rest of the world (Including West Asia, Africa, and South America), and the French, are actually very extreme weebs that would make even the biggest Japan-ophile in the English speaking world very uncomfortable.

By the way, actually decided look through my wishlist of series that have come out in the past 5-6 years (Over 600 series), and these are the only ones that have ridiculously long titles:
-Mom, Please Don't Come Adventuring with Me! ~The Boy Who Was Raised by the Ultimate Overprotective Dragon, Becomes an Adventurer with His Mother~
-The Banished Villainess! Living the Leisurely Life of a Nun Making Revolutionary Church Food
-A Story About Treating a Female Knight Who Has Never Been Treated as a Woman as a Woman
-I'm a Middle-Aged Man Who Got My Adventurer License Revoked, but I'm Enjoying a Carefree Lifestyle Because I Have an Adorable Daughter Now
-Self-proclaimed ordinary demon's heroic life: The result of him creating a cheat dungeon, even though he's supposedly a B-grade demon
-Yowai 5000-nen no Soushoku Dragon, Iware Naki Jaryuu Nintei Yada kono Ikenie, Hito no Hanashi o Kiite Kurenai
-Reincarnated as the strongest wand In another world, I'm forcing a girl to be a magical girl against her will!
-I've Became Able to Do Anything with My Growth Cheat, but I Can't Seem to Get out of Being Jobless (Novel)
-Toaru Majutsu no Heavy Zashiki Warashi ga Kantan na Satsujinhi no Konkatsu Jijou (Novel)
-For My Daughter, I Might Even Be Able to Defeat the Demon King (Novel)
-World End: What Do You Do at the End of the World? Are You Busy? Will You Save Us? (Novel)
Even looking at ALL the documented series listed on this site that have started in 2019 alone (Almost 700 series), only 11 have extremely long titles.

Also, an interesting thing that I noticed is that while all those titles are long, they use up to three times as many characters in English as they do in Japanese. For example, "Mom, Please Don't Come Adventuring with Me! ~The Boy Who Was Raised by the Ultimate Overprotective Dragon, Becomes an Adventurer with His Mother~" is 145 characters in English, meanwhile it's original title, "冒険に、ついてこないでお母さん! 〜 超過保護な最強ドラゴンに育てられた息子、母親同伴で冒険者になる", is just 50.

Also, what about how we have long titles in our own media as well (With shorthand titles) such as "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb", "The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe", "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale" (Which became Total Recall), "Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne - A Film Noir Love Story", and "The Second Part of Henry the Fourth, Containing his Death: and the Coronation of King Henry the Fift" (That is not a typo).

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