it varies arcoss the country, but in my state it is very inadequate

California educational system varies from district to district... So to say US in general is just stupid, when the Elk Grove Unified School District is so much better than the Sacramento School District.

I wish that the University costs were lower, though.

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most of the kids goin into school dont no wth they goin to school for, and in the end they dont no what they goin to college for. the US education system teaches kids how to score on tests, but can't do sh*t to prepare them for the real world. i like how in grade school everybody tells u, u can be the president or somin, but by the time u hit high school they laugh at u.

adequate maybe, beneficial beyond the classroom no.

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I think there are a lot of reasons for student's stupidity. First of all, socially it is not "cool" to be smart (unless you are in AP classes). don't ask me why, but it just seems people laugh about their failing grades and are proud of their stupidity for some reason...

Also, I think they are pushing the lower grades too much. Cramming higher math and English isn't going to help if they don't have the basics down...

then (at least in my area) there are just plain dumb teachers...they don't care that they can't teach well (or teach at all) and I agree that a lot of times they are just trying to get us to do well on test, but nothing to prepare ourselves for "real life"

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I can say that the U.S. Educational System sucks
or at least where I live it does. It's horrible and no
one knows what the flip they are doing >.>

I thought Mecklenburg had a horrible Education System
but I was wrong. I think Cabarrus may have them beat.
The people at Jay M Robinson don't care as long as they
are getting a pay check. I mean there is maybe one or two
teachers that care but thats about it.

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You've got a point man. NOVA schools (northern virginia) are very highly ranked as far as education quality is concerned,, but in many parts of Virginia you can still run into hillbillies and poor white trash whose schooling was clearly sub-par. Education in the states is crazy inconsistent.

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Exactly, because the US is district/municipality based. That's why to say "The US Educational System" is misleading.

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I've been thinking about this a lot recently. =\
I've never tried the US education system because I'm in Canada, but I do have to say, there is a major flaw in both; they simply are more laid-back than other countries.

In other countries, they seem to push more information in your head when you're in your prime years. Kids in Europe/Asia are already learning math when we're learning how to co-operate with each other.

And in Canada, kids are learning a lot more and faster than I did when I was their age .__. So I guess Canada's education system is getting better...?

hmm i go to one of the best high schools in the country, so i dont have much to say about this. i just thought it was a city thing. but considering the house prices in my neighborhood have SKYROCKETED, solely based on our schools, i guess that people are aware that we are serious about education.

Although we have a program where inner city kids are bussed to our high school.
you are all saying that with an education opportunity, they will learn? Wrong. they still do not take school seriously at all.

So i guess all i'm concerned about is that kids that want to learn, can't. that would suck.

It's also the American attitude towards school. American parents need to be more strict. And the media needs to stop filling kids head with crap. That's right, TV is crap!

I'm from the city and I met a lot of people from different places, mostly smaller cities or towns. I can tell you this, kids in the city are much more mature mentally. As far as school is concerned, school condition in smaller cities or town tends to be worse than conditions in the city. I'm not talking about environment, but the school's "material". With less funding for the smaller cities and town schools. Of course, this does not imply that they are not as a good of a student as the city kids.

To be a good student, you need: Motivation, resources, and a stable environment.

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I'd almost take offense to that, since I went to one of those small town high schools. But since I found the opposite of what you've experienced to be true, it doesn't bother me as much.

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I've been finding it too fast. There is so much my teachers are trying to cram in because of "a change in the system." I'm going berserk with everything.

Keep in mind I'm a Canadian commenting on the U.S. system.

The Good:

- The U.S. has consistently been top of the world economy-wise. So we can rule out the idea that the system is not effective at churning out top students.

- Most universities in the entire world. Since university standards are typically kept high, the U.S. gathers a good reputation from them. As such, students from other countries come to study in top learning centers.

Verdict on that: The U.S. gathers not just top U.S. students, but top international students. We're talking best of the best and since I'd wager a good portion wish to stay in the U.S., thus bolstering reputation further.

The Bad:

- Extreme cost of tuition. Here in Canada, you can expect 2k$ to 7k$ at the most for your regular university. In the U.S., easily two to three times that and sometimes more.

- This one is my personal opinion : the system has become too standardized and entrenched in today's society. If you don't go to school, chances are you lost at life. Since school starts at the age of 5 or 6, there is no basis for motivation that is formed in the budding student. Thus, erratic behavior and rebellion in the teen years. As such, drop outs, both for smart students and the not-so-bright.


So, really, system's great at the university level, but could use work in the high school sector. Also, a unified system and free education would greatly improve and streamline learning. As it is, education has a capitalist basis and sells its knowledge to the highest bidder. Top universities are getting fat on student tuitions and keeping students in debt for up to a decade or more until their careers kick in.

i think the the U.S. education system is inadequate. There is so much push towards getting high scores in the standardize testing that general/basic knowledge is lacking in many students. There was actually someone in my class that did not know where California was and she was born and raise in the U.S.

Money is one major factor. When funding is lower, schools obviously starts to cut down on the arts and music departments. Really irritating.

huh, i just did a presentation in my english class on kids and education. I'd say U.S. education is inadequate, but i wouldn't say that the education system in overly extreme countries like china and korea is okay either. i mean, they do learn a lot more but their happiness rate is ridiculous. from the research i found, in hong kong nearly one in three teens has had suicidal thoughts, 5% of south korea's children now belong to violent gangs, about 400,000 of japan's adolescents are now hikikomoris, and there's been an explosion in the number of children dropping out of school or committing suicide everywhere. and since children spend the majority of their lives at school instead of with their parents, this does not mainly stem off from parental negligence. and i didn't want to go into afterschool cramming, since that would be too troublesome, but my mom says my cousin in korea went to cram school and got home by 12 only to start his homework, and she asked me why i couldn't be diligent like him. i shuddered when i thought of this.
then there's finland. their kids start school at age 7 and the performance of individual schools is kept confidential to minimize competition. unless parents ask, kids aren't graded till they're 13. they have no standardized testing apart from their end of the year high school final exams and homework is light by international standards. yet this country comes in first or second in every category for the programme for international student assessment (PISA) test scores. and finnish children were the third happiest among developed nations in the 2007 UNICEF report.
there are also schools in countries other than the U.S. in which children from the ages of about 4-6 go to school, but do not have homework or textbooks, and instead do what they like and hold conversations every day with the teacher there only as a guardian. these children develop creative skills much faster, and tend to do better in their later years of schooling because they are taught to enjoy learning before they begin to actually learn by the education system's rigid standards.
basically what i'm trying to say is that because many schools are too intent on teaching kids solely for their standardized test outcomes, kids are not truly gaining knowledge but are instead learning how to do well on tests. and either you truly educate them or you teach them formulas and you don't half-ass it. that's what U.S. schools are doing, which is why our schools are inadequate.

bleh, if i got anything wrong in this it's because i'm rambling and i haven't gotten a proper night's sleep in three days due to projects and tests. 6 more days of school!! woot. -_-

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