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NightSwan I don't think she's trying to say that there should be a genre change (at least in this thread)... she's just being VERY technical about her definition of Yaoi.
So, Bunny think of this thread as characters that are not in any demographic where guys like/do guys but still do (I know that this isn't the greatest explanation... but I tried).
Mine would have to be Naruto as well.
Yeah, but I guess the core of this thread is...
Female authors enjoy suggesting homoerotic undertones in their manga because fangirls (usually) go crazy over it. And shonen authors get more fans (most likely female) if they make slashy themes in their manga (think Naruto and lots of other Shonen Jump titles.)
It's more like it's about perspective. What you think makes a homoerotic feeling to a story might not be what does it for me. I do not think Naruto is even remotely yaoi in context (except for that single "kiss" (though admittedly, I'm not caught up with the manga so there might be more instances I've missed)), but it has been mentioned here, and there are many people who take instances I see as friendship in various manga and construe it as possible homosexuality. I don't think it is as intentional as you make it seem (in most cases at least).
True, but there are many homoerotic shojo manga like Legal Drug, Kyo Kara Maoh! and Gravitation.
Besides I think yaoi is to beautiful to be coined the term 'gay manga' and its female-oriented soooo...
Have you been to the pages of any of the manga you just listed? They actually say *gasps*
SHOUNEN-AI on them. That means that they are homosexual in nature, though they do not go into the sexual properties of the homoerotic like yaoi does. This is about those manga that can be construed, as I said, by perspective as homosexual, but that however, might not be meant to have such themes by the author.
That being said what I was replying to is your response that manga-ka specifically go for yaoi audiences because that is what will make specific people fangirl. That's not necessarily true. Homoerotic themes are put there by people who want to see them or erased by those who don't. I know a person who watched one of your aforementioned manga as an anime and saw none of the implications in it (Kyou Kara Maou). That is what I meant when I said it's about perspective. I will see things you don't see; you will see thing I don't see, and we will take different things from the experiences.
Also, just because you think something doesn't make it anymore true or that someone else's perspective on a topic should be the same. Besides, it is "gay" manga despite who the target audience is.