LIES! XD tripping blows..is that the reason the characters sometimes fall out of nowhere?

i still say ike sucks. speed ftw. i may take that back eventually when i buy the game and play ike obsessed players online. i doubt it tho...


on another note..what's with the dedede bashing..he is slow..but he tis awesomeness XD. his side b is fast and incredibly annoying and it even shoots our crap if it isn't gotten rid of. not saying his is a great character..but seriously fun to piss people off with. he seems like an easy kill but can hold his own XD i like the random spike ball throws that come out XD.

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Speed is relatively meaningless. The only benefit that comes from it is making combos a little bit easier to pull off and even that depends more on how a characters moves actually work. And also to some extent it lets you take your opponent by surprise, but that depends on how experienced your opponent is.

What is truly important is the speed at which you can attack (the time between pressing the buttons and doing the damage). Ike actually has a few good attacks that are fast enough which is pretty much what you are supposed to rely on. A couple of them are even deadly (like his aerial back A, very fast and powerful).


Dedede can be amusing, his side b amounts to being about as fun as Mr. Game & Watch's. But really just because a character is fun and annoying, doesnt mean they are good.

And as Ive mentioned Mr. Game & Watch already I might as well be the first to ask. Anyone else notice how much better he is now than he used to be? Hes still too light...and his down a isnt quite as good, but everything else seems to be improved.

I recently got Brawl but I'm kinduv a newbie to the SSB series. I have the first one and only played Melee a few times. Any tips for a noob?

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Just try fighting a level 9 Peach and see some of the crazy stuff she pulls off. She uses her floating ability and combines it with aerial attacks at ground level for extremely fast and powerful attacks and its such a different experience fighting her than most characters that it can really throw you off your game. She also will pretty much float at the perfect spots in midair to counterattack while you are in the middle of a combo. That said I am kind of sad that pressing down B with her when you already have a Raddish doesnt do the smash throw but rather the regular one.







Use air dodges, shield grabs (avoid ALL use of the Z button for grabs), and short hops. That is if you actually know what those are, in which case I could also explain that, but well all except the air dodging are a little bit above basic, though not too much.

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Speaking of Peach and lightsabers, is she still a jedi? I remember playing melee as Peach, and when she picks up a lightsaber and starts swinging, she spins it around like yoda. That still happening?

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Im honestly not sure. And Im also not sure if she can still pull them out of the ground, but she still does grab Mr. Saturns from what I have experienced so far so I would assume she can also get beam swords as well (it was great in Melee to be playing a no items match and pull out a beam sword).

She definitely still has the beam sword though in the confusion I don't remember if the movements were the same. I imagine she still has the same or similar item pulling ability as in the past though I haven't managed to pull out a bob-bomb yet. I'll test it out later in practice mode to confirm.

edit: Mr. Game and Watch seems to have a lot of things going for him now though I still believe it is the element of surprise that works best for him. Most players just don't know how to read him and even those who saw him in Melee aren't sure how to handle the guy now that his moves have been tweaked. That said, I think it's the improvements to his aerial attacks that is the biggest boost. There's something satisfying about landing the down air on some slow lunk's head.

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Speaking of Super Smash Brothers, this is really funny.

Theme song lyrics

For some reason, it all really works.

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Diddy, DK, Ness, Ike, and Wolf are my best characters.

I love Diddy cause his aerial combos are second to none. The banana's also give everyone a headache.

Ness may be my favorite, cause NOBODY is good with Ness. That's why everyone underestimates him and they get royally owned because of it.

Wolf may be my best character, because he feels like diddy, only a bit stronger. Here's a combo I've learned: If your near a ledge (and facing it), and your opponent has over 50%, then do a down throw, and immediatlly jump off the edge and follow with a meteor smash. Instant kill. Diddy has the same thing, just face away from the edge

Ike is a beast. His power is amazing. He sort of reminds me of Ryu from street fighter. If you know the range, speed, and power of his attacks, then Ike can even beat Marth.

DK is alot better in this game. They made the heavy characters alot better in this game. Although his big punch is NOWHERE near as strong as it used to be, he makes up for it with his godly down smash.

Im also pretty decent with Luigi, Kirby, Pit, Fox, Toon Link, and Marth, and Samus.
I know, I'm good with almost everyone.

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Its been hell trying to learn how to meteor again, especially since you grab the edge in the middle of recovery moves and jumps now (which is really kind of annoying from any standpoint). Also many characters that were formerly great at meteor attacks (Marth and Falco) the area of the attack that produces the meteor effect has been significantly reduced (especially in Falco since in Melee you just had to touch him anywhere when he was doing his aerial down a to be sent down).

I did also find out that Ike has 2 meteor attacks, both his aerial and non aerial down a work as meteor attacks.

I do think I have finally become totally accustomed to the new physics and it isnt nearly as bad playing now as it was before I was adjusted. I also think I may finally be hitting the mark on some of the more negative changes to hit the game, though I think overall its about equally as entertaining as Melee was but with a wider selection of decent characters to choose from.

Now that's really cool. Makes me wonder if it would have sounded as cool during the time of the Roman Empire.

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What a strange choice of characters. The only one I'm used to seeing is Ike. The ledge meteor shot trick is interesting. Makes me want to take a second look at Diddy Kong.

Currently I'm shuffling between Zelda, Toon Link, R.O.B. and Mr. Game and Watch. I still haven't quite got the hang of R.O.B. and his air game but I'm fairly competent with the other three.

I used to like using Peach but the change in her down A killed a lot of my strategies for using her. Seeing her CPU 9 doing those floating attacks was freakish though. My butt's too clumsy to pull off the stuff it was doing. Forgot to check if her beam swordplay was the same. Gonna have to check tomorrow morning...

[quote=manhunter098][quote=drunkguy]Dude, in the hands of a Dedede player, you will get wrecked. No joke, there's a guy in my school that freaking owns with him. BTW, Dedede can chain-grab (useful for kills in stages like the "Bridge of Eldin" stage), and he doesn't need smash attacks to kill (but you already know that).

Seriously, man, no character in Brawl is truly bad. There are overly broken characters (Pit and Toon Link *coughs* ), but no one character is bad.

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Interesting. I haven't been able to see a decent Dedede fighter yet but I suspected he'd have some kind of following. No one ever seems to use him online play and I don't know any dedicated Dedede players though. Makes me want to hunt down youtube videos to see him in action.

edit: Seeing the Dededes on youtube was surreal. Seemed everyone was always timid in their assaults, constantly dodging and shielding at the slightest movement. Dedede tossing out a minion as distraction and then grabbing seemed central to his strategy.

Also I finally checked out Peach and it seems her swordplay has been slightly tweaked. Instead of doing a flourish and then a forward stab with the blade when dash attacking it is just a charging stab. Not sure of any other differences with the Beam Sword though.

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As much as I would like to judge every Brawl character I have played with. I'm upset now that I have spent the money. I was so looking forward to the online play then just relying on friends to come over to my apartment in order to play the game.

I bought the wireless router and hooked it up to the family pc one day and once the wifi went into action and I was in my first brawl room. I probably recieved 10 seconds of smooth gameplay and then recieve 3-4 seconds of lag before perfect play for the whole two minute match.

Does anyone else deal with lag or is it just my horrible connection? I was eventually about to by my own pc for the bedroom in order to play a few other games but avoiding that topic my Brawl gathers dust and I barely touch it. If online gameplay was smooth. I would gladly give my Friend address to everyone.

Gameplay has significant lag on my end also. I only played on random though so I wouldn't know if that had an affect. The only time I don't notice lag is when I'm just observing matches. Hopefully this problem will be resolved soon.

edit: In my case I'm more annoyed at that the cheap third party Gamespot controller I bought to play Brawl broke already. Bought it since I didn't want to shell out $100 for another Wii mote w/ nunchuck, classic controller and rechargeable batteries. I didn't expect it to last but I thought it would have lasted at least four months or so. It hasn't even been a month damn it. My stingy nature overrode my common sense again.

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