If you don't mind me asking what was the name of the text book? The good things that I bought to learn have been lost during my last job. All I have left is some programs from high school that probably won't even work with Windows anymore.

Here are the percentage of series on the site
Manga = 80.3657%
Doujinshi = 16.5068%
Manhwa = 1.5363%
Novel = 0.6704%
Manhua = 0.5763%
OEL = 0.2302%
Art Books = 0.1078%
Drama CDs = 0.0064%

While the percentage of novels on the site is small at the moment, if they continue to allow web novels to be added this number will rise. This is why I say that they should not allow any new web novels to be added to the site and only allow light novels with manga adaptations to be allowed. This will keep the original purpose of the site which was for manga related material (4-koma, manhua, manhwa, doujinshi, etc.).

I don`t care that much for doujins. Even now I am not keeping track of them with MU (you reject most of them) however the novels are different matter. There are a lot of nice novels that came to my attention thanks to MU so if you decide to filter them out - the Chinese and Korean ones will most probably disappear which will bring me bitterness. Please think it through. There is no point in making the users unhappy.

LNs don't have more chapters than manga, you are mixing up WNs and LNs.

That's just your opinion, woman.
I rather see the greatness in trying something new.
And it's not about covering everything, it's about filtering everything.
If the problem is money for coders and they need people to donate, then by the power of the community interested, it can be done.

It's not actually about filtering everything, it's about the focus of MU. And if the focus of MU is expanded to novels in general then it seems that users would be allowed to add any Asian novel to MU.


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The filter merely removes them from the release page, but the stats still get distorted.

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That's only counting the series entries.
But if you take the actual release count into account, novels (or rather web novels) will have a far higher percentage.
And their release frequencies is what distorts the stats and clocks up the release page.

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Starbucks doesn't suddenly start selling pizza, either, just because they have a lot of customers.
This site is/was meant for manga and all these novel release distort the statistic.
For someone, who seeks genuine data about manga, this site has already gotten pretty useless.

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To be fair the number of series doesn't mean much; it's the number of releases (especially in the past 6 months) that matters. The fact that the spike in popularity of novels and the huge decline of manga from 5-10 years ago has lead to light/web novels overtaking traditional manga. I don't think that's a bad thing but for some it is. I think the problem is made worse for them by the database because there isn't enough sorting options for this. Adding a novel genre will allow for release filtering of all novels (you can already block novel groups easily enough already), and add genre filters for other areas like top 25 will make it better for everyone if that allowed for searches for new or top 25 Shounen or Yaoi instead of getting 20 popular webnovels and 5 of their webtoons.
As for the issue with published doujins, webtoons, and web novels, I agree with the need for not adding self published series but there's no reason to deny a real, officially published series because it doesn't have a manga/print adaptation.


Starbucks might not sell pizza but they do sell things besides coffee to their customers like pastries, teas and complementary products to coffee. As I said above, the reason this database has gotten kind of useless isn't the amount of data, it's the lack of ability to sort the data in meaningful ways. As someone who has been using this site for over 13 years I can say there really hasn't been any major changes/improvements to the site in general. Release filtering improved by adding an option to filter out groups other than that the database features are virtually unchanged. Implement those kind of changes takes time and expertise so its not a simple matter of just add in this or make a new site from scratch.

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I only judge manwha and manhua as complementary, since it's the same medium.
If novels were to be counted it, the line would be too vague and any kind of literature piece from Asia would have to be accepted. Total chaos.
Each medium its own site or it'll get too confusing.
But hey, I guess lazy people like it convenient on one site, even if it inconveniences others.

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I understand the concern for "novels". It does seem like there is an overabundance of them. It is sometimes annoying to go to Releases and browse the list, only to see half the list are (novel)s.
Also lots of webtoons, which doesn't have the (webtoon) on the list when looking at "releases".

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I see. Then how about this, put a freeze on web novels (no new updates or series) since they are quick to translate and can be machine translated. As for light novels put a freeze on those that have no relation to manga. From what I can gather the quickest translation rate of light novels is about 1 a week (I could be wrong since this is based off the front page only) also they have to be translated by hand/real people.

As for doujinshi, maybe only let ones that had physical copies sold and have been translated onto the site.

Sorry if I'm not doing so well but attempting to be neutral is hard -.-

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Somebody is bound to complain about how his project isn't being accepted then.
There are no compromises in the matter.
Either keep it as it is now or kick off all novels.
The former will please novel readers and piss off manga readers while the latter will please manga readers and piss of novels readers. Can't be helped.
But in the end, and the argument gets repetitive, I know, this is a site for manga. Figure out the natural solution by yourself.

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Then how about this, someone said earlier that the site could be cloned, now if the site was allowed to be cloned for LN. I'm sure you can agree that this would be the best solution and would keep everyone happy. If this was allowed then MU would do what I said in my previous post about freezes on light novels and web novels, until the site was successful cloned. After the site was cloned then MU and the new site would remove novels and manga respectively. I would honestly provide support for this if allowed to but I have no idea how to do it and would probably need lots of help. If I could I would also provide financial support to start the site but am currently between jobs.