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Post #25140
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11:17 am, Jul 9 2007
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Hmm, Krnfate
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Wat u said and wat tazmo is doing is different. Hes taking credit for the work of others. BT, WINDOWS, and such, we are just using them not taking credit. Thats totally different. And if ur one of the staff of tazmo, pls die in a fire
Not quite true. You're supporting the pirates who do that. So in this case, by vinceasuma's standards, the person drinking from the gutters. Have you considered the amount of time and money spent behind programming such stuff. Hell even if its free ware think of the electricity he might have used to produce his work. I'm not glorifying piracy, nor am I saying making money off other people's effort is right. I just want to be able to do what I like alot. No point trying to solve an issue if its not solvable, because scanlating in the first place is already wrong. We're ripping off the mangaka's source of income. If you're not convinced please read High School of the Dead where the artist makes a plea to not scanlate and distribute his works. But do we listen... Nooooo. Instead of shutting up and remaining low profile, some of us feel that we need to stir things up and 'educate' noobs who want to kill themsleves for no freaking reason.

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Ok thanks Omar,

We get your point. You don't want to do anything and you only want to scanlate for your own enjoyment. Please go do that and let us plan what we want to do.

Also please don't put words in my mouth. I didn't call anyone a gutter water drinker, I was using an allegory to make a point.



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11:57 am, Jul 9 2007
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the thing is naruto fan does offer a lot, direct anime/manga download at a great speed, I mean how can you say these are bad? They are not worth 5 dollars.

BESIDES ON STOPTAZMO.COM, THERE'S A DONATE SIGN JUST AS BIG AS NFAN, SO WAT THE HELL IS THE DIFFERENCE, PLUS ALL THE OTHER SCANLATORS WANT YOU TO DONATE!!!!! aT LEAST NARUTOFAN OFFERS STUFF, NOT JUST ONE CHAPTER EVERY DECADE

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Post #25146
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12:07 pm, Jul 9 2007
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the difference is, Naruto Fan requires you to pay to download. Stoptazmo is free. They ask for donation, not payments.

And If the Admin of MU already put up that anti tazmo sign, then I know it is true. I trust them 100 percent.


[Psss..I got an idea. Let's go on a Tazmo hunt. I accuse lemondude of being a tazmo sympathizer. Get it? It's like witch hunt and Red scare] eyes

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putting all that aside it's like a guy that stoled a dollar is a not a criminal compared to a guy that steals a hundred.

So now sites are like please help! Donate to us who have put the work out for FREE!

(notice the word free, if someone donates then it's not free anymore right?)

(Notice one group asked for donation so they can buy the manga to scan, whether that money went there is beside the point, but wat's the difference between this and tazmo? Both charge to read)

(A site even charge 1.5 dollars for a page to be translated, and he still wants donations, not gonna name names here)

YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!!!!!

so now, Tazmo asks for 5 bucks for unlimited download and he's the micheal jackson of the manga community?

So all in all, every group that asks for donation one way or the other is crap and saying they spend their free time so shut up and relax is gay cause I don't recall forcing anybody to scan so now wat happened to their FREE POLICY?. not that I'm saying all of them do it and a few does do it for absolute nothing and offers great stuff.


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Post #25149
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12:19 pm, Jul 9 2007
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Hello? Am I not getting through to you? Donation is voluntary and payments are not. Stoptazmo asked for donations. If you don't want to donate, then don't. I never donated to them, yet I keep using their site.

You have been tainted to evil of Tazmo, now we will cleanse in your fire. Silent Hill 3: the hunt of the Tazmo. eyes

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Post #25151 - Reply to (#25146) by ares6
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[Psss..I got an idea. Let's go on a Tazmo hunt. I accuse lemondude of being a tazmo sympathizer. Get it? It's like witch hunt and Red scare] eyes


I don't like tazmo, wat I'm saying is that they are all the same, so why stop there, got to go all the way, and stop this so called "Donate" thing

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Post #25152 - Reply to (#25151) by lemondude
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[Psss..I got an idea. Let's go on a Tazmo hunt. I accuse lemondude of being a tazmo sympathizer. Get it? It's like witch hunt and Red scare] eyes


I don't like tazmo, wat I'm saying is that they are all the same, so why stop there, got to go all the way, and stop this so called "Donate" thing



There is nothing wrong with asking for donation. Dude.....are you going to curse at Red Cross? Church? Poor People? Beggars? Gosh.....

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That doesn't change the fact that Tazmo is a dick and puts forth no work in order to reap the benefits of others' work. Is it ok to ask for money for work that you did personally? I think so. Is it ok for ME to ask for money for work that YOU did? Would you want some of it? Would you want me to stop? What if I removed your name from the work so that no one ever knew you did it? If that's really ok with you then I'll stop arguing right now.

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those are different, the poor people DIDN'T ASKto be poor. But Last time I checked, Scanlating is voluntary as well and they WANTED to do it.

and I just checked two sites at random on today's release page they all want donations. Notice nobody pay for voluntary work, just like I didn't ask for money when I go to my old elementary school to help organize events and stuff.


http://silverado.wordpress.com/, that's a free site BTW, so I don't know wat the donations go to

http://community.livejournal.com/nodeadline/ FREE SITE AS WELL, DON'T CARE WHERE THE MONEY GO TO.

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Post #25158 - Reply to (#25134) by Conquestor
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tazmo can easily edit out the things he dont want. Which he has been doing. Unless u find a good way to not make em uneditable.


Read my post. Instead of letting tazmo release them, distribute releases directly to his userbase before he has a chance.


Didnt read ur post sorrie.

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Asking for donations and requiring payment are two completely different things! You silly head! Don't you get it? These sites are the ones doing the work! Giving someone the option to show gratuity for your own work is not the same as charging people to view someone else's work.

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12:35 pm, Jul 9 2007
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Me i know all about IRC, torrents and everything else i knew about them b4 i found the narutofan website im a member there because i like speed and dont always like to go through the hassle of waiting in the IRC, or torrent for seeders and stuff. I pay $5 for the speed cuz if i want to download a anime like lets say... gundam seed destiny or something its a anime that has been fully subbed if i want to get it by torrent i have to download the pack with all the episodes in it its good but it takes forever to download it and even when i change he setting on whitch files i want to download 1st there is still long wait. With naruto fan i just go to there site and download the episodes 2 at a time i dl 2 in about 20 min start watching them and wile i watch i dl 2 more episodes so im keps happy. For new anime and manga releses i dl from where ever its faster but i delete it afterwards and dl it again when the show or manga is finished from narutofan or some place else. So i have no problem with narutofan and when a new episode of naruto comes out dont they put a website link to sayamans page for raws and dattebayos page for the subbed? so hes not taking credit for himself and he never says that he is ( at least not that i have seen ) from what i can see people get pissed at him cuz he had a good idea yeh hes making money but im 99.9 % shure that if you or any one else got the idea b4 him you would do it.

Post #25164 - Reply to (#25140) by omar316
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Hmm, Krnfate
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Wat u said and wat tazmo is doing is different. Hes taking credit for the work of others. BT, WINDOWS, and such, we are just using them not taking credit. Thats totally different. And if ur one of the staff of tazmo, pls die in a fire
Not quite true. You're supporting the pirates who do that. So in this case, by vinceasuma's standards, the person drinking from the gutters. Have you considered the amount of time and money spent behind programming such stuff. Hell even if its free ware think of the electricity he might have used to produce his work. I'm not glorifying piracy, nor am I saying making money off other people's effort is right. I just want to be able to do what I like alot. No point trying to solve an issue if its not solvable, because scanlating in the first place is already wrong. We're ripping off the mangaka's source of income. If you're not convinced please read High School of the Dead where the artist makes a plea to not scanlate and distribute his works. But do we listen... Nooooo. Instead of shutting up and remaining low profile, some of us feel that we need to stir things up and 'educate' noobs who want to kill themsleves for no freaking reason.


I got... no clue on wat u said from that.


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FatsoTazmo still provides the mangadownloads for free. The Plusmembers can directdownload any anime that's up there.. but its only 5 bucks.. think of it as paying for the bandwhich you are using and not for the work of other people.FatsoTazmo puts up an alternative link to torrents for non-plusmembers.. FatsoTazmo is just fat, nothing else wrong with him.

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