Ecchi is ecchi...

Ppl love the same old cliches,other way....they wouldn't print them?eh?

2. I start noticing the cliches.

- Some cliché are ok, some not, it also depends on the mangaka's skill. Too many unbearable cliché and I can't help but drop.

If the storyline gets too repetitive or too cliched, I'm likely to drop it.

1)extremely cliched plot

1.) Loser male protagonists that's so damn pathetic, but has girls falling for him left and right! IE Chibi-Nori from Girls Bravo. That dumbass from Guardian Hearts. Shinji from NGE (this pathetic ass scum paved the road for loser male protagonists in modern anime - the fate of humanity is at stake and all you can do is cry in a corner and jerk off to a mind-raped girl in a coma)! The losers from both Da Capo and To Heart (pt 1 and 2)! That idiot from Occult Academy!! I can go on forever...

2.) Harem plots where the girls ignored the male protagonists' idiotic, pathetic, loser-tastic flaws because he is --- drum roll please ---- NICE!

3.) Harem plots where the male protagonist does not CHANGE on a personal level. The reason why I love Love Hina, Ai Yori Aoshi, Tora Dora, Clannad, and Yume De Aetara is because, despite the male protagonists being a loser at the beginning of the series, their character grows and changes throughout the story to where you can understand HOW and WHY such a character might have more than one girl vying for his affection!

4.) Plots where the male character pretends he's not a pervert or acts like he's completely allergic to seeing a naked girl (IE Tenchi, Keichii (AMG), Rin (Shuffle)). One of the most memorable anime scene ever for me is from the Kanon when Yuuichi walked in on Makoto in the bath and nonchalantly invited himself to join her!! That's how a man who can attract a harem SHOULD act!

5.) Manga where the male character have a pathetic Sailormoon-sque ideals: IE I will never kill! Killing is wrong! I'll change them by being their friend - that's all those murderous vampire, who spent centuries murdering, raping, and pillaging needs: A friend to stand by them, then they wouldn't need to murder, rape, and pillage anymore! I mean, I can defeat them right here and now, but I'll drag out this pathetic series, watch countless innocent get killed, still not change the vampires view on life, end up changing my ideals right after the one millionth murder, rape, pillaged victim and defeat them (characters such as Emiya Shirou, Tohno Shiki, Ruroni Kenshin...etc...) It seems that manga has horrible habit of taking a potentially cool character and pussifying the crap out of them!!!

6.) Female characters that have NO flaws and are oblivious to any sexual approach from the opposite sex: (IE wifey (but single) type: Belledandy, most characters name Kasumi...)

7.) Childhood friend that's a girl!

8.) Imouto type female characters!

9.) Stories where the main char. take on the best! Then the best of the best! Then the bestest of the best! Than the bestest of the bestest! Then the bestest best of the bestest! Then the bestest best of the bestest best! The LIST GOES ON AND ON AND ON!!! What F'ING point is there to a good action plot if there is no END in site!

10.) Plots where the heroes/heroine aren't actively going after the aggressors: There's a alien/monster invasion going on that're hell bent on conquering the Earth and enslaving all of humanity. But hey, HIGH SCHOOL and SHOPPING MALLS and TV DURAMA takes precedence over hunting down the bad guys. Instead, we're going to wait until innocent people are hurt or killed, we show up at the last minute, take out the monster of the week, and forget it ever happened - only to have the routine repeated again next week and the week after that for any entire school year!

weak/gay main characters (such as naruto or most harem manga's)

i never had a problem with ecchi manga.. i never said i wanted to see more

but the manga that become classics is what manga artist should be aiming for, because those are what sell the most, not the manga that are packed with every cliche you can think of.
think about all the manga that have went down in history as classics, people dont care about the cliches (just read why people are commenting in this post)
people care about how original a story is.



oh really, than why do we have such comments as these..?









i think i've proved my point-

Rofl...so ur basing it on the words of bunch original loving "aesthetes" like u?....mmyeah -_- There is allways ppl like u....
Well let me tell you something,u're not the whole world...how can u even argue with the fact that every year there is like 5-10 cliched ecchi titles printed in japan,and they are selling it...somehow?=|
U can whine all u want,but the market wont change just because of ur needs..
Cliched...just a loud word...everything is cliched alrdy...a long time ago...try to think of something new...and print it urself -_-
And cliche is a cliche because it works...i thought they taught u that in school

Anyway...there is no absolutely identical mangas out there...even if the setting and the genre is the same,something is changed...otherwise publishers wouldn't print it,and buyers wouldn't buy it...

10.) Plots where the heroes/heroine aren't actively going after the aggressors: There's a alien/monster invasion going on that're hell bent on conquering the Earth and enslaving all of humanity. But hey, HIGH SCHOOL and SHOPPING MALLS and TV DURAMA takes precedence over hunting down the bad guys. Instead, we're going to wait until innocent people are hurt or killed, we show up at the last minute, take out the monster of the week, and forget it ever happened - only to have the routine repeated again next week and the week after that for any entire school year!

After reading some post again...i'm kinda curious...
No jerks in shoujo manga(dunno hows that even possible-_-)
No sex scenes,or ho's
No triangles
No childhood flashbacks
No imoutos...
No Childhood friends
No too cool leads
No weak male leads
No weak female leads
No harems
Sorry..............but WTH are u reading then?=|It's like a 90% of the manga...

Exactly. Which is why I find 90% of manga crappy.

Exactly. Which is why I find 90% of manga crappy.

...shoujo girls going after the bad boy...

Well i feel sorry for u guys then=|

Link me the rest 10% then please,i'm curious